Talk:Alphys

Fangamer figure/3D render

@Kung Fu Man there's an image of Alphys as a Fangamer figure, is this one suitable? Carlinal (talk) 01:55, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

IIRC Cukie Gherkin wanted to avoid using the toy image for this one because of the stylized nature of her design, namely her facial expressions, not translating as well to the toy?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 01:57, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

wait why is alphys the only one with the actual in-game sprite while all other characters with a page simply use the 3d render Okmrman (talk) 01:52, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

KFM explained it already. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 03:22, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Can you link it? Okmrman (talk) 03:38, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

ok i meant why every other article uses the 3d render Okmrman (talk) 03:47, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

This is because the others are less stylized in their expressions, so it's not as big a deal. The fact that Alphys' 3D model is also forward-facing makes it harder to identify her distinct side-ish profile. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 04:15, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Alphys's bisexuality

Source 2 is inaccurate to the content of the game and mistakenly labels her as bisexual, saying that she is attracted to a ten year old genderless child, which she isn't (this is based on the contents of a pity date she goes on the main character with), and "others", which are not named. As the only actual example of her attraction towards anyone within the game is Undyne, another lesbian and her girlfriend (in the True Pacifist route), this should be rectified, and her sexuality should be listed as lesbian or not listed at all. Missmonstergirl (talk) 16:56, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

She very clearly & canonically has a crush on Asgore. This is stated in-game. Please see : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=788wsj5rnVs from 0:42 - 1:01. CornyDude22 (talk) 04:22, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

No, it isn’t. This is someone else stating she has a crush on him. Not her saying it. She only ever displays attraction to Undyne. Also, the video you linked doesn’t prove anything. Mettaton is just openly bullshitting, and we know definitively that she’s not attracted to the human by her reaction (the opposite of what the source “proving” her bisexuality says, by the way). Blushing isn’t proof of anything, and neither are Mettaton’s words, as evidenced by the video. Missmonstergirl (talk) 05:45, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

I think trying to overanalyse this would fall under WP:OR. Also here's a totally random article. Ringtail Raider (talk) 14:15, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

It isn't overanalysis. It's stating the truth, which is that Mettaton's statements aren't concrete proof of anything. It alone also isn't concrete proof of Alphys being attracted to Undyne. her blushing is not because she's attracted to them, its because she's being humiliated by a former friend. Here's another random article. If you're going to accuse me of being bigoted against bisexuals, I'm going to accuse you of being resistant to the idea that she's a lesbian because you feel threatened by the idea of a woman, fictional or otherwise, being sexually unavailable to you, and declaring her to be bisexual on flimsy evidence is your way of taking the threat out of lesbian sexuality.

Also, the "evidence" provided here that is supposed to prove that Alphys is bi literally goes directly against the source provided in the article. Missmonstergirl (talk) 14:25, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Oh crap, we're already jumping to personal insults? CornyDude22 (talk) 20:57, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

I was insulted first, and I responded in kind. Missmonstergirl (talk) 21:03, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Original research would be suggesting that she's bisexual based on something that could be interpreted as attraction or embarrassment or humiliation, and calling anyone who says that this isn't concrete proof of anything a biphobe. Just because you accept it as proof of attraction doesn't make it proof of attraction. Missmonstergirl (talk) 14:32, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

The human is non-binary, so I don't see why bringing them up here even matters. Mettaton correctly states that she DOES have a crush on Undyne, and does NOT have a crush on the human, so he seems like a trustworthy source during the quiz. and I have no clue why he could choose to just lie for one specific answer. CornyDude22 (talk) 20:54, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

The human is being brought up because the source provided for her bisexuality uses a crush on the human as evidence. I want, at the very least, a better source, one that doesn't rely on information everyone in this conversation accepts as false. Other than that, they don't matter.

As to the second point, I've outlined the reasons. He's humiliating her on stage because he is furious at her. He also could just be wrong, but also, he lies all of the time, to everyone, at nearly every interval. Regardless, its her actual response that matters. Her response (a blush) is not proof that she is bisexual, because it could just as well be a response to, again, being humiliated on stage. Alphys blushes at the slightest provocation. It's not proof she's attracted to Undyne either! That just has a metric tonne of evidence behind it. This is inconclusive. Missmonstergirl (talk) 21:11, 7 September 2025 (UTC)