Talk:Atlantic Spaceport Complex
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Should this article be about NordSpace instead?
[edit]I noticed that Maritime Launch Services, the only article really comparable to this one, is about the company itself rather than starting with an article about a yet-to-be-completed spaceport. Now that article isn't perfect either, but I'm wondering if it might make more sense to start with an article about NordSpace, with a section about the spaceport. Later on, once the spaceport is completed and there's more to say, it can have a standalone article. I see other coverage that pertains to NordSpace but not the spaceport, for example "NordSpace Unveils SHARP Program for Canadian Defense" ... Something to think about in any case. It'll be interesting to see which one actually ends up being the "first spaceport", as they've both made that claim now, and I haven't heard from MLS in a while. -- MediaKyle (talk) 18:06, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
- Not a bad idea, at all. To clarify, you're suggesting starting a NordSpace page as well? I could take a run at it, but appreciate your help connecting them. Thoughts? Lexington63 (talk) 18:50, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- It's about both.Spoaceport Nova Scotia is further along in development than this site. It had its first launch over a year ago. It is actually Canada's first commercial launch complex. The NFLD site is second and far less developed. The problem for MLS is the Russian–Ukrainian war, which sabotaged its plans to use the Cyclone-4M, a Ukrainian designed and built medium-lift orbital launch vehicle. MLS has been "winging it" for the past three years. It now has a contract for a small-lift launch vehicle built in Quebec. My understanding was that they were in negotiations with two United States start-ups, but it looks like those launch providers went with Japan and Virginia, not Spaceport Nova Scotia.–Abebenjoe (talk) 02:00, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- That's correct. All sources I have checked are verified. It seems maritime space launch is a company and has been for years, and is listed publically.
- I find this "Atlantic project" is only in the idea stages and more promotional and has a website which doesn't count for content that's verified. I'll research more. it's applying for grants and funding. Whhile this may indeed become an entity with an actual launch site and infrastructure, it looks to me through research that this is Nord Space and would be best served as an article in their name page.
- Also sources need to be verified seperately. No opex. Also I want to remind anyone here that paid Wikipedia articles are strictly forbidden. This needs to be encyclopedic material. Canada's first launch business strikes that chord.
- I'd suggest moving the content to an area of Nord space, since all my research shows me that Nord space and it's CEO put this idea together and he's running this promotion for another spaceport in a hurry. I won't speculate why, but it's common knowledge. Let's make this objective and encyclopedic in nature to keep these principles upheld.
- Of course, it's open source of people are going to do what they do but luckily things get corrected all the time. ~2025-31852-77 (talk) 05:44, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- This is a strange comment. We've determined by now that the spaceport and the company are independently notable, so there's no longer a need to merge them. What leads you to believe anyone working on this article is a paid editor? Your comment about how paid Wikipedia articles are strictly forbidden is odd. MediaKyle (talk) 11:13, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- It's about both.Spoaceport Nova Scotia is further along in development than this site. It had its first launch over a year ago. It is actually Canada's first commercial launch complex. The NFLD site is second and far less developed. The problem for MLS is the Russian–Ukrainian war, which sabotaged its plans to use the Cyclone-4M, a Ukrainian designed and built medium-lift orbital launch vehicle. MLS has been "winging it" for the past three years. It now has a contract for a small-lift launch vehicle built in Quebec. My understanding was that they were in negotiations with two United States start-ups, but it looks like those launch providers went with Japan and Virginia, not Spaceport Nova Scotia.–Abebenjoe (talk) 02:00, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Articles about NordSpace and Taiga Rocket?
[edit]Since the Nordspace Taiga launch attempt I have been editing this page a lot to update the information about the taiga rocket. I think they should have their own respective pages, and we move a lot of the information on this page detailing those topics to their pages. I'm still quite new to Wikipedia so some help would be awesome. Paxicoscolon (talk) 15:06, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- If someone else could create the page, that would be an awesome help. Paxicoscolon (talk) 15:15, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- Looks great, thanks for your contributions. My line of thought as I outlined above is that we might want to create an article at NordSpace, and then merge and redirect this article into a section "Atlantic Spaceport Complex" on the NordSpace article until the spaceport is actually completed. That would make it more in line with what was done at Maritime Launch Services and allow us to broaden the scope to include more coverage about NordSpace in general. I don't think there's much of a justification yet to have an article for NordSpace and a standalone article about the Spaceport at the same time personally but maybe others disagree. What do you think? Pinging @Lexington63 and @Abebenjoe for more input. -- MediaKyle (talk) 15:34, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- I think you're right, that's a better idea. Paxicoscolon (talk) 17:44, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- At the moment, there really isn't much information about NordSpace. SpaceQ did some coverage, as did CBC News, with each having written an article or two about NordSpace. Even Eric Berger has mentioned them in the Ars Technica Rocket Report. But that's about it. Not much to go on for a stand-alone article at this time. If NordSpace is successful, I can see it getting more coverage, and therefore more reliable sources to build an article around.– Abebenjoe (talk) 19:10, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- Well, we have one now, courtesy of Enneacontakaienneagonal. Guess we'll just figure it out as we go. MediaKyle (talk) 17:00, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- I'm honestly thinking about just copying the section about the Taiga rocket in this article to the Nordspace article and then shortening and replacing the current taiga section into launches which would encompass both the current taiga launches and upcoming tundra/international launches. Paxicoscolon (talk) 01:21, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- That sounds reasonable to me. The Taiga rocket can't be all too related to this spaceport if it doesn't exist yet. -- MediaKyle (talk) 01:24, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- Once more information is released (probably once Taiga successfully launches), I think a page dedicated to the Taiga rocket itself would be good, especially for displaying the launch attempts in full detail. Paxicoscolon (talk) 01:35, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- That sounds reasonable to me. The Taiga rocket can't be all too related to this spaceport if it doesn't exist yet. -- MediaKyle (talk) 01:24, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- I'm honestly thinking about just copying the section about the Taiga rocket in this article to the Nordspace article and then shortening and replacing the current taiga section into launches which would encompass both the current taiga launches and upcoming tundra/international launches. Paxicoscolon (talk) 01:21, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- Well, we have one now, courtesy of Enneacontakaienneagonal. Guess we'll just figure it out as we go. MediaKyle (talk) 17:00, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Looking good, how can I help? I added the ASX page to the NordSpace page–a minor edit while I was checking out the good work ya'll are doing Lexington63 (talk) 18:31, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Christmas came early this year
[edit]@Paxicosolon: I sent an email to NordSpace last night and they have so generously released a bunch of photos for us to use here. I uploaded them all already, except for the photo of their founder, as it's a .avif for some reason. See commons:Category:NordSpace. -- MediaKyle (talk) 13:05, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- Awesome! Paxicoscolon (talk) 14:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
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