Talk:David Chichkan
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Article about the artist
[edit]Dear Wikipedia members. This is my new article dedicated to a Ukrainian artist. While working on this text, I was guided by the principle of neutral description with references to official, authoritative sources. However, if you see a flaw or error, I would be glad if you could help me improve it. Anonymous-anonym (talk) 11:02, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
Standardising Romanisation
[edit]This article currently jumps back and forth between different Romanisations, interchangeably using "David Chichkan" or "Davyd Chychkan" with seemingly no rhyme or reason as to when or why it's being used. For the readers' sake, I'd like to standardise it to one or the other, but I'm currently at a loss as to which we should standardise it to. Having gone through a couple dozen English-language sources on him, it seems like there's a pretty even split between the two Romanisations, with neither being a clear common name.
I'd appreciate others weighing in on which Romanisation to preference. Obviously standardising it to one wouldn't completely remove the other, as we'd still mention the alternate Romanisation in the lead or an explanatory footnote, but I think it would aid readability. --Grnrchst (talk) 14:57, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Anonymous-anonym, Robby.is.on, Jkaharper, Камарад Че, and Julius Barclay: Courtesy ping to other contributors who have edited this article. --Grnrchst (talk) 15:00, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Grnrchst,
- Thank you for your message. In fact, this is a very important and complex question, which will be challenging to answer. Since the artist's name has a different transliteration depending on which language the translation is made from (Ukrainian or Russian). For most of his life, the artist used the transliteration from the Russian language—David Chichkan, but in the period 2022-2023, he began to use the Ukrainian transliteration more and more often—Davyd Chychkan. Since the artist is deceased, I would try to contact his wife to try to find an answer to this question. Anonymous-anonym (talk) 19:44, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Grnrchst,
- I had a conversation with the artist's wife, Hanna, and she said that in recent years the artist has been correcting his name as Davyd Chychkan in public presentations, exhibitions, and this was important to him. Therefore, I propose to correct it to Davyd Illich Chychkan.
- OMA 🌚 23:37, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- @Anonymous-anonym: I've changed the in-article transliteration and have opened a move discussion below. --Grnrchst (talk) 00:20, 3 February 2026 (UTC)
Requested move 3 February 2026
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David Chichkan → Davyd Chychkan – Per the above talk page discussion, there does not appear to be a clearly common variant of Chychkan's name, with a more or less even split between sources that use the Russian transliteration "David Chichkan" and the Ukrainian transliteration "Davyd Chychkan". Anonymous-anonym (talk · contribs) has spoken to Chychkan's widow, who said that he preferred the latter variant of "Davyd Chychkan" in public presentations towards the end of his life. In keeping with this preference, I'm proposing we move the article title to reflect it. Grnrchst (talk) 00:19, 3 February 2026 (UTC)
- Support – Even if the sources showed some big 80–20 split against the Ukrainian transliteration, I see no reason we shouldn't side with how he wanted his name spelled, per the last example in WP:SPNC: For minor spelling variations (capitalization, diacritics, transliteration, punctuation and spacing after initials, etc.): when a consistent and unambiguous self-published version exists, it is usually followed. Hugo P. Behrmann (☎) 05:04, 3 February 2026 (UTC)
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