Talk:Expulsions and exoduses of Jews
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[edit]I added the sentence about post-1991 emigration out of the ex-USSR to Israel, the US and Germany. The US figure of 250,000 with "refugee" status is accurate, but are there cites anywhere for more accurate numbers to Israel and Germany, and for non-refugees to the US? 13:51, 03 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#REDIRECT Talk:Immigration_to_Israel_from_Arab_lands
Until recently, this was a redirect. If there is a controversy, I'll just turn it back into a redirect. My guess is the focus on the Arab lands is because they focus on Palestinians. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 04:54, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I see. That history explains alot, especially the Talk page from the original link. In that light, you have done a very creditable job of listing the long history of cases of Jewish refugees. The intro just needs to be NPOVed. I don't think the focus on Sephardim in Israel is appropriate for the page title which is much broader. Thanks. Alberuni 05:04, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Israel and jewish refugees
[edit]From the article I see the following: 'The State of Israel (population in 1948 was about 650,000) absorbed approximately 600,000 of these refugees'
I suggest information is added on Israeli policies relating to the refugees as it is not clear how this worked.
Another comment relates to the definition of jewish refugees in the beginning of the article. Is it not recognized that this term is used on all jewish refugees? Tiller1 23:00, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Really? Using a fictional story?
[edit]"475 BCE Persia. Haman plots to expel and kill all Jews."
The entire narrative of Esther is FICTIONAL. It is almost superfluous to mention single points as evidence for the "unhistoric" character of the book. The exegetes have often emphasized how unthinkable a feast that all dignitaries of the Persian court participate in (1:1-4), how absurd a royal decree to all men to maintain the final say in their household (1:22), and how unlikely the promulgation of decrees in all languages of the world empire rather than in the official Aramaic (3:12; 8:9) would be. To these observations is usually added that neither a Vashti nor an Esther were ever queens in the Persian empire, that the only historically verifiable character of the book, Ahasveros or Xerxes I, had a queen by the name of Amestris and that as members of the royal harem neither Esther nor Vashti could have been called 'queen'. Additionally the Persian kings were obliged to choose their queen from one of the seven noble families. Therefore Esther doesn't even come into consideration. A Jew as vizier at the Persian court (8:2; 10:3) is extremely unlikely and a Persian king who sanctions a civil war within his own empire (8:8; 9:11 sq.) entirely unthinkable. Finally, if Mordechai had been one of the exiles who were deported from Jerusalem 597 BC, then he would have been more than 120 years old in the 12th year of Xerxes' reign (3:7) and his cousin Esther would not have been the beautiful young girl who won over the king to elevate her to queen (2:17).— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sickofthisbs (talk • contribs)
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I would like to change the BCE to BC and CE to AD. I would also like to describe in further extent the descriptions for which their reasons of expulsions were even an occurrence. 50.107.191.210 (talk) 00:25, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
Not done: The use of BC and AD is certainly not appropriate for an article about a non-Christian religion. I'm unsure what you mean by your second sentence, but you can open a new edit request that specifies the exact text you want to be added to the article. Day Creature (talk) 06:45, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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− | The tzarina of Russia Catherine the Great institutes the Pale of Settlement, restricting Jews to the western parts of the empire by means of deportation | + | The tzarina of Russia Catherine the Great institutes the Pale of Settlement, restricting many Jews to the western parts of the empire by means of deportation. |
Vinidapoo (talk) 21:29, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
Although many Jews were restricted from settling outside the Pale of Settlement, there is a large list of exceptions provided in the second sentence of the Pale of Settlement article.
Some Jews were allowed to live outside the area, including those with university education, the ennobled, members of the most affluent of the merchant guilds and particular artisans, some military personnel and some services associated with them, including their families, and sometimes their servants. Pale is an archaic term meaning an enclosed area.
I am also hesitant about providing four million as a number for the population of Jews within the Pale. The provided number might be valid, but it is unsourced and contradicts other sources online which say five million[1].
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