Talk:Multi-configuration time-dependent Hartree
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I've listed this article for peer review because I made substantial additions to the stub article. This is my first significant Wikipedia contribution, and would like to know some pointers to making this a good article. I am also unsure what to add to the intro section to make the article more applicable to a general audience.
Thanks, Leo51db (talk) 16:07, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think the article title is confusing. It is not about the noun "Hartree", it is about an algorithm, approach, method, or framework according to the sources.
- The introduction or first section should set the context. "An approximate computational method used to understand the motions of molecules". Why is that valuable? Why is it hard? What makes the method special?
- Need more secondary sources. Citing Meyer's work primarily makes the article suspect as biased or WP:COI or WP:OR.
- Is it related to "multi-configuration time-dependent Hartree–Fock method"? (Zanghellini, J., Kitzler, M., Brabec, T., & Scrinzi, A. (2004). Testing the multi-configuration time-dependent Hartree–Fock method. Journal of Physics B: Atomic, Molecular and Optical Physics, 37(4), 763.)
- The source Wang, H. (2015). Multilayer multiconfiguration time-dependent Hartree theory. The Journal of Physical Chemistry A, 119(29), 7951-7965 can act as a secondary source.
- Replace Zundel and Eigen with words.
- Look into the introduction sections of sources for material. To be honest the equations and input data here have relatively little impact. These are things experts will look up from original sources anyway. Qualitative descriptions will reach a wider audience.
- More honesty: its not a good sign when major aspects of the article have no wikipedia content. Dirac-Frenkel, McLachlan Variational Principle, Time Dependent Hartree. This suggests the topic is too specialized for this venue.
- Johnjbarton (talk) 07:15, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tips. I agree there needs to be more meat in the intro section that relates more generally to the issue of solving the S equation for dynamics and generally.
- I agree with the citations.
- The equations and input I thought were helpful as a reference, as it makes it easier to pin down what MCTDH actually is without diving into various source texts. It is also an issue in literature that there seems to be a weak standard for notation regarding MCTDH (especially for ML-MCTDH), which further complicates citing authors other than Meyer and Wang. But I agree, there needs to more qualitative content throughout.
- I also noticed that there was little wiki content in this sphere. The two articles on variational method/principle are very weak despite being very important methods for Density Functional Theory and this genre of dynamics. Time Dependent Hartree could be rolled into this article as the literature seems pretty sparse on it. But for the others, I have no idea what a good strategy is. The articles for DVR and FBR are also weak or lacking. Leo51db (talk) 11:18, 17 November 2025 (UTC)