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Africa

It’s obv most African nations are multinational as stated on the intro but what does the article do? Just state some 4 or 5 countries and talk about mainly non African nations than African nations itself. Pure bias!!! Nlivataye (talk) 20:10, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Montenegro

Montenegro is the nation state of the montenegrins ruled by them and this ethnic group form the majority, so it's not multinational. 79.106.124.205 (talk) 08:51, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting proposal

This article is conceptually confusing in its conflation of mutliethnic states with multinational ones. For the most part, the article uses these terms interchangeably (as in the listed examples), yet the article still feels the need to use two distinct terms. It would be more consistent to use one uniform term, but I don't believe this would be an appropriate solution because national identity and ethnicity are not equivalent (hence they have two separate wikipedia articles).

I propose that the aspects of this article relating to multiethnic entities be split into a separate page called Multiethnic state. The examples given are numerous and well-citated enough to make a separate page.

Yr Enw (talk) 10:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It won't work: different sources often use each term for the same state. It will lead to endless argument. How do you propose defining each term and what sources do you have supporting those definitions? DeCausa (talk) 10:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just happened in here because of a cross-reference from the Japanese article 多民族国家, which has no real relation to this article. (The Japanese article is essentially "multiethnic state"). The Japanese may have a more keen concept of mono-ethnic/multi-ethnic states than most... Glancing at other languages, French is multinational state (État plurinational), Spanish is multi-ethnic state(Sociedad multiétnica). Portuguese is a small article for multinational state (Estado multinacional). In particular, in the Japanese article the United States is (obviously) a "multi-ethnic state", but we do not list the U.S. here as a multi-national state. It seems there is something we can identify as distinct between these two terms.

It looks like Spanish actually has this split, see: "Sociedad multiétnica" vs "Estado_multinacional". *both* currently link here. To be fair, the sourcing is rather limited on both. Still, it seems like the current contents of the foreign articles might be a reasonable starting-off point for what the delineation should be... 2400:4050:8EA2:7700:65BE:4C3A:D14A:C120 (talk) 04:25, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the US not included?

Serious question: why is the United States of America not included in this list? They are a multinational state just by their name. Each state in the union has nearly as much autonomy as member states of the EU but I don't think anyone would dispute the EU being multinational.

Going by regional identity there are many Americans who consider themselves a citizen of their state first and citizen of the country as a whole second.

On top of this you have the Native tribes, each of which is a nation unto itself.

I think I'm missing a key piece here and would honestly appreciate someone expanding on the topic.

Tone is hard in writing but this is a sincere question born of curiosity. 69.228.130.15 (talk) 14:24, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]