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On 24 January 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from Rojava conflict to Rojava Revolution. The result of the discussion was moved.

A new page for the late August 2023 tribal clashes in Deir ez-Zor

Since a few days ago at the time of writing, there has been a wave of clashes between Arabic tribal militias and SDF forces (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/30/several-killed-in-fighting-between-sdf-and-tribesmen-in-eastern-syria). I don't have a good understanding of the situation, but the fightings was apparently sparked by the SDF arresting a militia leader of questionable loyalty for insubordination. Since then, there has been a wave of clashes between rebelling tribal militias and SDF loyalists, and it seems to have killed a minimum of ~22-50+ people. Should we make a separate wikipedia page for these clashes? Randomuser335S (talk)

why are we not including civilians killed by all parties..?

the infobox contains info only on ~500 people killed by Rojava yet the source clearly states numbers (multiple times higher) for coalition forces and other parties. Zuzu8691 (talk) 15:12, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

resize images on infobox

please resize the images in the infobox, they are oversized and clutter up the article 82.44.124.173 (talk) 12:06, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

date

The SDF is still attacking and defending the land they currently occupy. The conflict is should be considered ongoing ~2026-42693-4 (talk) 13:07, 20 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 24 January 2026

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 03:02, 1 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Rojava conflict → Rojava Revolution – This article's title changed a lot during its early years, but all of the moves that took place were unilateral, without discussion, and several were reverted. The current title was established in November 2015 by FunkMonk (talk · contribs), who moved it away from "Rojava Revolution" to the title "Rojava conflict", which they described as a "less biased title" (diff). This was reverted in March 2016 by Cedewey (talk · contribs), who described the "Revolution" title as a "more accurate descriptor of events" (diff), but FunkMonk quickly reverted the move, saying "it is POV and there is no consensus to move" (diff). Cedewey then opened a talk page discussion, but it resulted in no consensus. It has been at the title "Rojava conflict" ever since.

It's now been nearly 10 years since this discussion ended with no consensus, and I thought it worth opening another one. The core argument against "Rojava Revolution" is that it presents a potentially biased point of view, and that "Rojava conflict" constitutes a more neutral title. This implies that the term "revolution" is, in itself, a non-neutral term; the argument against it would then apply to articles about the Russian Revolution, French Revolution and other similar events. But this argument also falls short of common name policy, as "Rojava Revolution" has 999 results on an English language search of Google Scholar, while "Rojava conflict" only has 25 results; furthermore, all but one of the results for "Rojava conflict" came from after this article was moved in 2015, implying that much of the scholarly use of this term is actually citogenesis.

One could make the argument that "Rojava Revolution" is not a non-neutral descriptor, but even if it were a biased term, I think it clearly falls under our "non-neutral but common name" policy. There's also an issue of description, as the word "conflict" implies an article focused on military affairs, while this article discusses the social aspects much more. As "Rojava Revolution" clearly appears to be the common and most descriptive name for this subject, and as I'm unconvinced by the neutrality argument, I'm proposing this article be moved back to the title of "Rojava Revolution". Grnrchst (talk) 10:54, 24 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Nizolan, Charles Essie, and Patetez: Courtesy ping to other participants in the previous move discussion. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:56, 24 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above reasoning. I don't really have anything to add. Charles Essie (talk) 18:18, 24 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

We just need to follow what most reliable sources call it. While I'm sympathetic to the cause (neutral title refers more to the fact that it was mainly partisan sources using the term "revolution"), the issue was whether "Rojava revolution" was more prevalent in reliable sources as opposed to other terms at the time. It appears the term has since been used more widely in retrospective coverage, so its usage may have solidified, and if that is indeed the case, I'd support a move. FunkMonk (talk) 18:34, 24 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:COMMONNAME, along with the Scholar hits, ngrams doesn't have any results for rojava conflict but does for rojava revolution Kowal2701 (talk) 22:34, 25 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

"Rojava conflict" is a WP:NDESCR name, so it doesn't necessarily need to have usage. Katzrockso (talk) 23:36, 25 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.