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Proposed Deletion (2012)

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This subject is already covered, in some detail and with a more neutral tone, on the Nikola Tesla page itself.

This page has also had some serious, longstanding quality issues; it was originally donated wholesale from a very non-neutral publisher (effectively making it original research), it uses unacceptably sparse and low-quality citations, and it has to some extent been hijacked by conspiracy theorists (the talk page has received various dubious posts and been blanked at last once; the article has consistently been written in a tone which indirectly suggests that the Teleforce at some point existed). While this isn't in itself reason to delete the page, it does suggest that covering this topic solely in the more heavily-trafficked Nikola Tesla article would be a good idea.

82.35.199.68 (talk) 11:53, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have switched your AfD tag to a merge tag, as it appears that is what your seeking. Monty ₈₄₅ 16:38, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Merge Standalone article is fine for me. It needs to be improved. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 17:06, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support merger - per nom re: not encyclopedic. Article is primary sourced (except for one publisher's website supplying some analysis of their published Tesla primary source). As such there is no article at all. I am not sure if there is any way to re-write it citing secondary sources (there are allot of secondary Tesla biographies out there but the editors of this article didn't bother to use them). There is the bigger problem that "Teleforce" was Tesla's personal name for what is better known as his "Death ray"[1][2]. As such we already have a (poor) section on it at Nikola Tesla and this article should be deleted/merged per WP:DICTIONARY - "things are grouped into articles based on what they are, not what they are called". Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 21:32, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Merge. {{Split sections}} from the previous section in the N. Tesla article was done by editing consensus, IIRC. (Something that newer editors will not know, a drawback of Wikipedia's growth I guess.) It is an encyclopedic topic, but the article does need to be improved. --J. D. Redding 22:03, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Merge. I am an early contributor to Teleforce and would like to see its continued development and improvement as a stand-alone article. The question of whether small macroscopic metal particles can actually be projected through free space by means of electrostatic force is touched upon in The New York Herald Tribune, 11th July, 1934, Joseph W. Alsop Jr., "Beam to Kill Army at 200 Miles . . .". “He said he could feel a sharp stinging pain where it entered his body, and again at the place where it passed out. . . .” GPeterson (talk) 13:56, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Problem to note. Restoring this vandalized talk page brought up the fact that most of this article is a copy paste of a web-page done by the editor of the [21st Century Books] website, re: Gary Peterson, Twenty-First Century Books (Note: material here courtesy blanked by User:GLPeterson 17:21, 9 September 2012) diff. Not withstanding any outcome on merge, there is a clear Conflict of interest here that I will take to a notice board some time soon, or simply to AFD. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 14:46, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Charged Particle Beam?

If it's shooting Tungston pellets how can it be a particle beam weapon? Isn't it more similar to a prototypical railgun? 24.67.92.104 (talk) 00:51, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mystery Quote

Who said this?

"Whether Tesla's idea was ever taken seriously is still a matter of conjecture. Most experts today consider his idea infeasible. Though, his death beam bears an uncanny resemblance to the charged-particle beam weapon developed by both the United States and the Soviet Union during the cold war." Dubinia (talk) 00:56, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it and similar material, rewrote other parts, cited to better sources. Cleanup claims sourced to what seem to be primary and wp:fringe). The quote is a copy/paste from an unreferenced PBS page. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 18:24, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]