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September 2025

Your edit to Nigeria Association of Computing Students has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for information on how to contribute your work appropriately. For legal reasons, Wikipedia strictly cannot host copyrighted text or images from print media or digital platforms without an appropriate and verifiable license. Contributions infringing on copyright will be removed. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:16, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cameremote. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know, however, that there is consensus that we shouldn't tag pages as lacking context (CSD A1) and/or content (CSD A3) moments after they are created, as you did at 2026 Sundance Film Festival. It's usually best to wait at least 60 minutes for more content to be added if the page is very short, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Tagging such pages in a very short space of time may drive away well-meaning contributors, which is not good for Wikipedia. Attack pages (G10), patent nonsense (G1), copyright violations (G12) and pure vandalism/blatant hoaxes (G3) should of course still be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 03:19, 18 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Alien Chicks (UK band)

The page Alien Chicks (UK band) has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it was a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, you may contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you may open a discussion at Wikipedia:Deletion review. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:45, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion of Mihailo Petrović (basketball)

The page Mihailo Petrović (basketball) has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it was a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

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Tech News: 2025-41

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Paste Check is a new Edit Check feature to help avoid and fight copyright violations. When editors paste text into an article, Paste Check prompts them to confirm the origin and licensing of the content. Starting Wednesday, 8 October, 22 wikis will test Paste Check. Paste Check will help new volunteers understand and follow the policies and guidelines necessary to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia projects.

Updates for editors

Mobile devices will receive mobile articles directly on the standard domain (like en.wikipedia.org), instead of via a redirect to an "m" domain (like en.m.wikipedia.org). This change improves performance. This week it will be enabled on Wikipedias. The existing mobile URLs and the "Desktop view" opt-out remain available. Learn more. [1]
New date filters, creationdate: and lasteditdate:, are now available in the wiki search engine. This allows users to filter search results by a page's first or last revision date. The filters support comparison operators (e.g. >2024) and relative dates (e.g. today-1d), making it easier to find recently updated content or pages within specific age ranges. [2]
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The field rev_sha1 in the revision database table is being removed in favor of content_sha1 in the content database table. See the announcement for more information.
The Reader Experience team will roll out Dark Mode user interface on all Wikimedia sites on October 29, 2025. All anonymous users of Wikimedia sites will have the option to activate a color scheme that features light-colored text on a dark background. This is designed to provide a more comfortable reading experience, especially in low-light situations. Template authors and technical contributors are encouraged to learn how to make pages ready for Dark mode and address any compatibility issues found in templates in their wiki before the enablement. Please contact the Web team for questions or any support on this talk page before the enablement. [6]
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Speedy deletion nomination of File:NGX Chairman.jpeg

A tag has been placed on File:NGX Chairman.jpeg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a copyright violation of https://konfamfm.com/tag/ahonsi-unuigbe/ and has no credible claim of non-free use or permission. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use it — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Whpq (talk) 21:29, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello Cameremote! While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, it's important to understand and adhere to guidelines about using information from sources to prevent copyright and plagiarism issues. Here are the key points:

Limited quotation: You may only copy or translate a small portion of a source. Any direct quotations must be enclosed in double quotation marks (") and properly cited using an inline citation. More information is available on the non-free content page. To learn how to cite a source, see Help:Referencing for beginners.
Paraphrasing: Beyond limited quotations, you are required to put all information in your own words. Following the source's wording too closely can lead to copyright issues and is not permitted; see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Even when paraphrasing, you must still cite your sources as appropriate.
Image use guidelines: In most scenarios, only freely licensed or public domain images may be used and these should be uploaded to our sister project, Wikimedia Commons. In some scenarios, non-freely copyrighted content can be used if they meet all ten of our non-free content criteria; Wikipedia:Plain and simple non-free content guide may help with determining a file's eligibility.
Copyrighted material donation: If you hold the copyright to the content you want to copy, or are a legally designated agent, you may be able to license the text for publication here. Please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials.
Copying and translation within Wikipedia: Wikipedia articles can be copied or translated, however they must have proper attribution in accordance with Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. For translation, see Help:Translation § Licensing.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices. Persistent failure to comply may result in being blocked from editing. If you have any questions or need further clarification, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Whpq (talk) 21:30, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

October 2025

Hello, I'm Patar knight. I noticed that you have been adding short descriptions to articles. However, the short descriptions you added are too long to be effective, such as at House Committee on Commerce. The guideline is that short descriptions should ideally be under 40 characters long, and no longer than needed. For more information, see the short description guidelines. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thank you. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:27, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, thank you! Cameremote (talk) 15:30, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for UPE

Your account has been blocked indefinitely for advertising or promotion and violating the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use. This is because you have been making promotional edits to topics in which you have a financial stake, yet you have failed to adhere to the mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a form of conflict of interest (COI) editing which involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is strictly prohibited. Using this site for advertising or promotion is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia.

If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, please read our guide to appealing blocks to understand more about unblock requests, and then add the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} at the end of your user talk page. For an unblock to be considered, you must:

Confirm that you have read and understand the Terms of Use and paid editing disclosure requirements.
State clearly how you are being compensated for your edits, and describe any affiliation or conflict of interest you might have with the subjects you have written about.
Describe how you intend to edit such topics in the future.

asilvering (talk) 02:33, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators: if this block includes a Volunteer Response Team ticket number, this block was placed as part of the conflict of interest VRT queue and the user must not be unblocked without the express consent of a user with access to the queue.

I don't like to do this, Cameremote. By my reckoning, you're not scamming people, sockpuppeting, or colluding; you're just an ordinary Wikipedia editor trying to make some scratch on the side. But you have edited for pay, and you have failed to disclose this when directly asked about it, so you're blocked. I'd like to see you unblocked. Here are the conditions I would need to see you agree to, before consenting to lift this block:

you list every article that you have been paid to edit, in whole or in part
you list the clients that correspond to those articles
you agree to maintain these lists going forward, on a userspace subpage that is very clearly linked from your main userpage
you promise to do no further undisclosed paid editing.

Here are some other conditions you could agree to in order to demonstrate good faith:

we draftify any articles that have been created by you on behalf of a client, and sent them through AfC
you place the "paid contributor" banners on articles where appropriate.

There is nothing wrong with disclosed paid editing. You are welcome to do so, provided that you follow the rules at WP:PAID. You are even welcome to create (if unblocked) a disclosed and clearly linked alt account, which you use for your paid editing purposes. Your nascent undisclosed paid editing career, however, is over. Think about it. -- asilvering (talk) 02:57, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I sincerely agree chief, i have been editing Wikipedia for over a year now, i remember you mentoring me sometime ago. This is honestly a scratch, i kindly appeal to be unblocked and accept the terms you laid. Thank you for your work on Wikipedia Cameremote (talk) 03:02, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1. All articles will be listed

2. Clients will be listed

3. I agree to maintain the list on a userspace

4. All paid editing, either in part or in full will be disclosed per terms

Side note;

I agree to dratify listed articles

But the issue of the paid editing banners (where i'm i suppose to place them, on the talkpage, the main article or my userpage?)

Thank you. Cameremote (talk) 03:06, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

asilvering I wasn't fully aware of the paid editing terms, but I've reviewed them now. From my understanding, Wikipedia allows paid editing, but I missed the disclosure part. I received compensation for my work on a page, which I thought was promising, and some of which I created but didn't declare COI. I clearly confused that. I'll be very transparent: I don't know the full process of disclosure, but I know paid editing is allowed, and I've taken note now. On this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritza_Chan, I work as an intern in the UN, but because I didn't understand COI disclosure, I assumed there was no COI since I haven't received compensation, and I had to be corrected. I sincerely request an appeal, even if temporary or on probation, and I agree that if such happens again, I accept any future block and won't even appeal. I love editing Wikipedia; I created a Wikimedia group in my school and became the lead, now imagine the lead of the group's account being blocked. I understand this is disturbing, I've reviewed the disclosure terms at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest here, and once unblocked, I'll follow them properly. Cameremote (talk) 03:00, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I don't think you're being altogether honest with us. Take Pierre Louvrier, a businessman who's been subject to media scrutiny regarding his alleged ties to Russia and sanctioned Russian actors (see this article). This came up during Tulsi Gabbard's confirmation hearings, and Senator Warner asked her specifically about Louvrier's "entry on French Wikipedia" (fr:Pierre Louvrier), which at the time contained sourced material about "the impacts of Russian sanctions on his investments". It doesn't anymore, because you whitewashed the article to emphasize his philanthropy ("operational strategies for profound cultural change toward greater unity, empowerment, abundance, and resilience") and downplay any Russian connections. You did the same to the it-wiki article, and you created three flowery pages about him here (Pierre Louvrier, Draft:Clementy Group, Clementy Schuman Legacy Foundation), the third of which is just about a G11. When I asked you why you decided to write about Louvrier, you suggested you just stumbled across him at Wikipedia:Requested articles, which is completely not a plausible explanation. I don't know exactly what happened here, but obviously you have an ulterior motive that you're being evasive about. I suspect the same is true of some of the other articles mentioned below. There are other issues too (for instance the constant misuse of AI, which you have been warned about before and haven't answered my question about), but we can't get to that until you're more forthright than you've been. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:10, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I'm not the one who will be reviewing the block, since I set it - some other admin will have a look, and they'll make a decision that may or may not take my suggestions into account. (Though, since this is a WP:COIVRT block, they will have to convince someone from COIVRT to consent to that.) I imagine that any responding admin would want to see the full list of your paid articles and clients before considering an unblock. I can say that I personally would want to see that before consenting to an unblock by an admin without COIVRT access. Feel free to ask if you still have questions about paid editing. -- asilvering (talk) 03:34, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Paid Contributions

Isaac Rodriguez Betanzos: Paid by Isaac Rodriguez Betanzos
Aspire (fintech): (not paid, but COI as i am affiliated with the founder and page already exists on Requested Articles)
Grema Sulaiman (deleted): Not paid, the subject is family.
CircleChess (deleted): Compensated via product by (CircleChess official page on Linkedin).

Other Conflicts of Interest

Maritza Chan: Unpaid UN intern researching diplomats. No compensation, but COI due to UN affiliation.
Maurice Odhiambo Makoloo: Unpaid UN intern researching diplomats. No compensation, but COI due to UN affiliation.
Alan Richard Mootnick: No payment recieved, no affiliation with the subject, but i helped a user edit and improve the draft on Wikipedia and then published. We later connected on socials. So i don't know if it count's as COI.

Cameremote (talk) 04:03, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Part of what I'm struggling with here is the July COIN thread, where you seemed very familiar indeed with the policies: paid editing is not prohibited on Wikipedia, undisclosed paid editing is...If I were ever paid, I would disclose it, as required by policy...If i had any compensation, i would disclosed and moved on. But now that you're doing clear-cut paid editing at Isaac Rodriguez Betanzos, you say you "missed the disclosure part" and weren't "fully aware of the paid editing terms". Do you see why I'm having a hard time believing that you're being fully honest with us? Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:07, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I don't even bother to add disclosures to my COI pages as i already think paid editing is allowed as long as the work was neutral, which is not the case. The only article I received payment for which I can guarantee is Isaac Rodriguez Betanzos, and as you can see, I am still working on it (the tag is still there), which I assumed when completed, i can safely remove the tag and declare COI. Articles i help create via Requested Articles, i do sometimes declare that that such pages are "created per Requested articles on their talkpages. The concept of "paid editing disclosure" confuses me upto now, because edits i'm not compensated for are also required to be declared COI, i find it interesting. The concept baffles me, but i'm learning. Cameremote (talk) 05:28, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I sincerely do no intend bad-faith. I didn't come up all this way just to get my account blocked. However, i'm very fine with whatever decision is made. I think i have done my part on Wikipedia. Cameremote (talk) 05:33, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would you explain to me in your own words 1) what a conflict of interest is, 2) when people with conflicts of interest need to disclose, and 3) how to disclose? Also, how much of Draft:Isaac Rodriguez Betanzos was generated by AI? I know that's something you've been warned about before. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:26, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, i don't have financial stake with the draft, i would have mentioned it. I am actively rooted in Value investing, and the subject is very notable in that field (they are a big deal), which is why i worked on a more cleaner version and published. The draft was previously deleted, although the subject is notable. I normally check the NPP queue, AFC queue, drafts queue and promising drafts queue to spot articles that are notable, but written poorly. I then improve them. The same goes to Maritza Chan, although i work in the same organization with the subject as intern, i initially saw it in the drafts field as Draft:Maritza Chan Valverde, worked on it and published. Most times, i flag articles that i deem not notable enough, but was told to give the articles some-time as they are in the NPP queue, see [[8]]. Also, how can one know an page is created by the subject, is there a log for this or another feed for this which the subject declares they are the subject? If there is, i would love to know, to avoid editing drafts created by subjects. Cameremote (talk) 12:29, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What about Pierre Louvrier/Clementy Schuman Legacy Foundation/Draft:Clementy Group? Why did you decide to write about this topic (on three different wikis)? Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:00, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Still, i have not paid been by this subject. This is volunteer work for completeness. The subject was listed on [requested article] and already have an article on the french wiki, which i improved. Spotted the french wiki when i was finding sources for the english article. Sames goes for the organization they run. I have already [disclosed that on the talkpage]. For this one Draft:Clementy Group, i assumed it is not notable enough, which is why i left it in draftspace. The same pattern goes for Joseph Ntung Ari, i have not been paid by the subject, but created both their page and their organization Industrial Training Fund for completeness. Also for this, Rafiah Idowu Sanni, Federation of Muslim Women Association of Nigeria. I have already listed the articles i have COI and I assume good faith, i just had the process of disclosure confused. Thank you. I will proceed to logout of my account and take a break. Any decision made is accepted, but i sincerely request an unblock, even on probation. Cameremote (talk) 21:30, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extraordinary Writ My understanding formerly of COI is that "When you've been paid or compensated in whole or in part for an edit made or page created, then COI applies. This must be declared after completely working on the article, on its talkpage. If not paid, no need to disclose". However, I now understand that COI it is not limited to paid work, it applies whenever an editor has a close connection (financial, professional, or personal) to the topic they are editing. One has to disclose before or during editing, not after, and it should be made both on the user page (using a paid contribution disclosure if compensation is involved) and on the article’s talk page. Cameremote (talk) 12:42, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Isaac Rodriguez Betanzos moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Isaac Rodriguez Betanzos. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because paid creations need to go through AfC (WP:PAY). I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:18, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Last week, improvements to account security and two-factor authentication (2FA) features were enabled across all wikis. These changes include user interface improvements for Special:AccountSecurity, the support of multiple 2FA methods via authenticator apps and portable security keys (previously users could only enable one method), and a new Recovery Codes module which facilitates fewer account lockouts due to lost two-factor apps and devices. As part of the Account Security project, work is continuing through the rest of 2025 on further user experience improvements, and support for passkeys as an alternate second factor.

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Ahonsi Unuigbe moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Ahonsi Unuigbe. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because you may have a possible Conflict of Interest. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Zalaraz (talk) 03:47, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Kavita Baruah

The article Kavita Baruah has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Page creator is blocked for undisclosed paid editing, it is likely that this article was also created in contravention of conflict of interest guideline.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Zalaraz (talk) 03:52, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]