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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope
[edit]CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions
[edit]Closing procedure
[edit]After seven days, an administrator (or possibly a non-admin) will determine if consensus has formed, and close the discussion. If appropriate, the discussion instead may be relisted to allow for more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented. As noted at Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions, non-admins may follow the process at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Working, and list discussion results there for an admin to review, and to log to the page directly.
Discussions awaiting closure
[edit]- List of links to individual open discussions (>7 days old): Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Old unclosed discussions - updated by User:AnomieBOT
- Full text of all open discussions (>7 days old): Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/All old discussions - powered by a Lua module parsing /Old unclosed discussions
- List of days with open discussions (>7 days old): included below from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Awaiting closure – powered by a Lua module parsing /Old unclosed discussions
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 September 23 (20 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 September 22 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 September 21 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 September 20 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 August 28 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 August 25 (1 open)
How to nominate a category for discussion
[edit]Nomination procedure
[edit]Twinkle
[edit]You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, see § MassCFD.
MassCFD
[edit]You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD to automatically make mass nominations.
Manual nominations
[edit]I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types
[edit]I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors
[edit]In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2025 October 1|CfD section name}} ~~~~
or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}}
to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}}
for this.
Speedy renaming and merging
Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
[edit]The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
[edit]- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
[edit]- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
[edit]Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full CfD nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
[edit]- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
[edit]- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
[edit]- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.
Admin instructions
[edit]When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
[edit]- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
[edit]Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 00:05, 29 September 2025 (UTC). Currently, there are 476 open requests (. )
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Current requests
[edit]Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Books about the far right to Category:Books about the far-right – C2A/C2C Consistency with parent category PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:08, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:East African and Regional Cooperation ministers of Kenya to Category:East African and regional cooperation ministers of Kenya – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 20:06, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Social Development ministers of Jordan to Category:Social development ministers of Jordan – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 17:51, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Public Sector Development ministers of Jordan to Category:Public sector development ministers of Jordan
- Category:Planning and International Cooperation ministers of Jordan to Category:Planning and international cooperation ministers of Jordan
- Category:Digital Economy and Entrepreneurship ministers of Jordan to Category:Digital economy and entrepreneurship ministers of Jordan
- Category:Marist College to Category:Marist University – C2D per Marist University. Dale Arnett (talk) 16:55, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Works and Supply ministers of Zambia to Category:Works and supply ministers of Zambia – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 16:01, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Civil Service ministers of Oman to Category:Civil service ministers of Oman – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 15:47, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:State for Cabinet Affairs ministers of Qatar to Category:Cabinet affairs ministers of Qatar – C2A, remove superfluous "State for" that appears to be a corruption of "Ministers of State for". Woko Sapien (talk) 15:40, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Regional Development ministers of the Czech Republic to Category:Regional development ministers of the Czech Republic – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 15:30, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:National Unity of Ukraine ministers to Category:National unity of Ukraine ministers – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 15:21, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Development Planning and Statistics ministers of Qatar to Category:Development planning and statistics ministers of Qatar – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 14:56, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Electricity and Water ministers of Qatar to Category:Electricity and water ministers of Qatar
- Category:Environment and Climate Change ministers of Qatar to Category:Environment and climate change ministers of Qatar
- Category:Social Development and Family ministers of Qatar to Category:Social development and family ministers of Qatar
- Category:Communications and Information Technology ministers of Qatar to Category:Communications and information technology ministers of Qatar
- Category:Oil and Gas ministers of Sudan to Category:Oil and gas ministers of Sudan – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 14:52, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Rugby league coaches by club in Australia to Category:Rugby league coaches in Australia by team – C2C: Category:Rugby league teams not Category:Rugby league clubs Kaffet i halsen (talk) 12:31, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Rugby league players in Australia by club to Category:Rugby league players in Australia by team
- Category:Rugby league players in New South Wales by club to Category:Rugby league players in New South Wales by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Newcastle, New South Wales by club to Category:Rugby league players in Newcastle, New South Wales, by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Queensland by club to Category:Rugby league players in Queensland by team
- Category:Rugby league players by Sydney club to Category:Rugby league players in Sydney by team
- Category:Rugby league coaches by club in Canada to Category:Rugby league coaches in Canada by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Canada by club to Category:Rugby league players in Canada by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Fiji by club to Category:Rugby league players in Fiji by team
- Category:Rugby league coaches by club in France to Category:Rugby league coaches in France by team
- Category:Rugby league players in France by club to Category:Rugby league players in France by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Ireland by club to Category:Rugby league players in Ireland by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Italy by club to Category:Rugby league players in Italy by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Jamaica by club to Category:Rugby league players in Jamaica by team
- Category:Rugby league coaches by club in New Zealand to Category:Rugby league coaches in New Zealand by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Auckland by club to Category:Rugby league players in Auckland by team
- Category:Rugby league players in New Zealand by club to Category:Rugby league players in New Zealand by team
- Category:Rugby league players in the Canterbury Region by club to Category:Rugby league players in the Canterbury Region by team
- Category:Rugby league players in the West Coast Region by club to Category:Rugby league players in the West Coast Region by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Waikato by club to Category:Rugby league players in Waikato by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Wellington by club to Category:Rugby league players in Wellington by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Papua New Guinea by club to Category:Rugby league players in Papua New Guinea by team
- Category:Rugby league coaches by club in Serbia to Category:Rugby league coaches in Serbia by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Serbia by club to Category:Rugby league players in Serbia by team
- Category:Rugby league players in South Africa by club to Category:Rugby league players in South Africa by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Spain by club to Category:Rugby league players in Spain by team
- Category:Rugby league players in the United Kingdom by club to Category:Rugby league players in the United Kingdom by team
- Category:Rugby league coaches by club in England to Category:Rugby league coaches in England by team
- Category:Rugby league players in England by club to Category:Rugby league players in England by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Scotland by club to Category:Rugby league players in Scotland by team
- Category:Rugby league coaches by club in Wales to Category:Rugby league coaches in Wales by team
- Category:Rugby league players in Wales by club to Category:Rugby league players in Wales by team
- Category:Rugby league coaches by club in the United States to Category:Rugby league coaches in the United States by team
- Category:Rugby league players in the United States by club to Category:Rugby league players in the United States by team
- Category:Rugby union coaches by club to Category:Rugby union coaches by team – C2C: Category:Rugby union teams Kaffet i halsen (talk) 12:13, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Rugby union players by club to Category:Rugby union players by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Argentina by club to Category:Rugby union players in Argentina by team
- Category:Rugby union coaches in Australia by club to Category:Rugby union coaches in Australia by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Brazil by club to Category:Rugby union players in Brazil by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Canada by club to Category:Rugby union players in Canada by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Chile by club to Category:Rugby union players in Chile by team
- Category:Rugby union players in the Czech Republic by club to Category:Rugby union players in the Czech Republic by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Fiji by club to Category:Rugby union players in Fiji by team
- Category:Rugby union coaches in France by club to Category:Rugby union coaches in France by team
- Category:Rugby union players in France by club to Category:Rugby union players in France by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Georgia (country) by club to Category:Rugby union players in Georgia (country) by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Germany by club to Category:Rugby union players in Germany by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Hong Kong by club to Category:Rugby union players in Hong Kong by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Ireland by club to Category:Rugby union players in Ireland by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Italy by club to Category:Rugby union players in Italy by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Japan by club to Category:Rugby union players in Japan by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Portugal by club to Category:Rugby union players in Portugal by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Romania by club to Category:Rugby union players in Romania by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Russia by club to Category:Rugby union players in Russia by team
- Category:Rugby union coaches in South Africa by club to Category:Rugby union coaches in South Africa by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Spain by club to Category:Rugby union players in Spain by team
- Category:Rugby union players in the United Kingdom by club to Category:Rugby union players in the United Kingdom by team
- Category:Rugby union coaches in England by club to Category:Rugby union coaches in England by team
- Category:Rugby union players in England by club to Category:Rugby union players in England by team
- Category:Women's rugby union players in England by club to Category:Women's rugby union players in England by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Scotland by club to Category:Rugby union players in Scotland by team
- Category:Women's rugby union players in Scotland by club to Category:Women's rugby union players in Scotland by team
- Category:Rugby union coaches in Wales by club to Category:Rugby union coaches in Wales by team
- Category:Rugby union players in Wales by club to Category:Rugby union players in Wales by team
- Category:Rugby union coaches in the United States by club to Category:Rugby union coaches in the United States by team
- Category:Rugby union players in the United States by club to Category:Rugby union players in the United States by team
- Category:Anorthosis Ammochostou B.C. players to Category:Anorthosis Famagusta BC players – C2E: [1] HanTsî (talk) 09:00, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Volleyball people by country subdivision to Category:Volleyball players by country subdivision – C2C: Contents are "Fooian volleyball players by X". Kaffet i halsen (talk) 08:34, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Occupied Territories Affairs ministers of Jordan to Category:Occupied territories affairs ministers of Jordan – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:57, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Home Affairs ministers of Zambia to Category:Home affairs ministers of Zambia – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:56, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Municipal Affairs ministers of Qatar to Category:Municipal affairs ministers of Qatar – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:55, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Business Affairs ministers of Iceland to Category:Business affairs ministers of Iceland – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:50, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Labour and Social Affairs ministers of the Czech Republic to Category:Labour and social affairs ministers of the Czech Republic – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:49, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Constitutional Affairs ministers of Somalia to Category:Constitutional affairs ministers of Somalia – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:43, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Endowments and Religious Affairs ministers of Oman to Category:Endowments and religious affairs ministers of Oman – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:42, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Foreign Affairs ministers of Qatar to Category:Foreign affairs ministers of Qatar – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:41, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Religion Affairs ministers of Sudan to Category:Religion affairs ministers of Sudan – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:40, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of the Navy of the Netherlands to Category:Ministers of the navy of the Netherlands – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:18, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Woko Sapien: I do not object per se, but the article should be renamed first or else we have a C2D problem. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Same rationale as below. See Category:United States secretaries of the navy and United States Secretary of the Navy. Woko Sapien (talk) 14:49, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Woko Sapien: I do not object per se, but the article should be renamed first or else we have a C2D problem. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Islamic Affairs of the Maldives to Category:Ministers of Islamic affairs of the Maldives – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of the Air Force of Italy to Category:Ministers of the air force of Italy – C2A, cap fix (C2C with Category:Ministers of the navy of Italy). Woko Sapien (talk) 21:16, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Woko Sapien: I do not object per se, but the article should be renamed first or else we have a C2D problem. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Would it though? For instance, see Category:United States secretaries of the air force and United States Secretary of the Air Force. Woko Sapien (talk) 14:48, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Woko Sapien: I do not object per se, but the article should be renamed first or else we have a C2D problem. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Religious Affairs ministers of Somalia to Category:Religious affairs ministers of Somalia – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:14, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:National Guidance and Religious Affairs ministers of Zambia to Category:National guidance and religious affairs ministers of Zambia – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:01, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Irrigation and Water Resources Management ministers of Sri Lanka to Category:Irrigation and water resources management ministers of Sri Lanka – C2A, cap fix. Woko Sapien (talk) 20:58, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Jewish Affairs of the Ukrainian People's Republic to Category:Ministers of Jewish affairs of the Ukrainian People's Republic – C2A, cap fix on "affairs". Woko Sapien (talk) 20:54, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:United States Third-Party Doctrine to Category:United States third-party doctrine case law – US case law categories end with "case law". Not a proper noun. lethargilistic (talk) 10:06, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Folk artists from India to Category:Indian folk artists – C2C: Norm is FOOian folk artists, eg American folk artists SMasonGarrison 03:56, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Language articles with unsupported infobox fields to Category:Pages using infobox language with unknown parameters – C2C: By convention the format for these categories is
Category:Pages using infobox INFOBOX_NAME with unknown parameters
. See other categories in Category:Infoboxes with unknown parameters Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 02:33, 29 September 2025 (UTC) - NO BOTS Category:Pages using Infobox U.S. federal court with unknown parameters to Category:Pages using infobox U.S. federal court with unknown parameters – C2C: By convention the i in infobox should be lowercased. See other categories in Category:Infoboxes with unknown parameters. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 02:24, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Şenkaya District to Category:Şenkaya – C2D: Also C2C; consistency with the other categories in Districts of Erzurum Province - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:01, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Pages using Infobox desalination plant with unknown parameters to Category:Pages using infobox desalination plant with unknown parameters – C2C: By convention the i in infobox should be lowercased. See other categories in Category:Infoboxes with unknown parameters Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:36, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Pages using Infobox squash player with unknown parameters to Category:Pages using infobox squash player with unknown parameters – C2C: By convention the i in infobox should be lowercased. See other categories in Category:Infoboxes with unknown parameters Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:35, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:China railway station stubs to Category:Chinese railway station stubs – C2C: A lot of the categories in Asian railway station stubs use the "Fooian" naming scheme, so this subcat should be renamed accordingly - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 00:26, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Pages using Infobox police officer with unknown parameters to Category:Pages using infobox police officer with unknown parameters – C2A: By convention the i in infobox should be lowercased. See other categories in Category:Infoboxes with unknown parameters Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:23, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Pages using Infobox broadcasting network with unknown parameters to Category:Pages using infobox broadcasting network with unknown parameters – C2A: By convention the i in infobox should be lowercased. See other categories in Category:Infoboxes with unknown parameters Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:15, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Pages using Infobox UK legislation with unknown parameters to Category:Pages using infobox UK legislation with unknown parameters – C2B: By convention the i in infobox should be lowercased. See other categories in Category:Infoboxes with unknown parameters Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:07, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Pages using Infobox computing device with unknown parameters to Category:Pages using infobox graphics processing unit with unknown parameters – C2B: By convention the i in infobox should be lowercased. See other categories in Category:Infoboxes with unknown parameters Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:33, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Pages using infobox ice hockey biography with unknown parameters to Category:Pages using infobox broadcasting network with unknown parameters – C2B: By convention the i in infobox should be lowercased. See other categories in Category:Infoboxes with unknown parameters. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:31, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Weird Westerns to Category:Weird West – C2D: Per main article, Weird West. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:34, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose for now. I think the main article may be poorly named rather than the category. A quick ngram shows that Weird Western is probably the more common useage.
- ButlerBlog (talk) 16:04, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Admins who have had a close reverted to Category:Wikipedia administrators who have had a close reverted – C2C: To match the other categories in the tree. Gonnym (talk) 16:38, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- This entire category seems like it fails WP:USERCAT for lacking any discernible collaborative function - I would suggest starting a full discussion focused on deletion instead. But not opposing renaming; agreed that name is better if kept. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:50, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: pinging the only admin in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:57, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- I'm also in Category:Wikipedians who should probably stop screwing around with categories, lest they draw unwanted attention from the Categories Police but at least I've got lots of friends there. RoySmith (talk) 20:03, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: pinging the only admin in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:57, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- This entire category seems like it fails WP:USERCAT for lacking any discernible collaborative function - I would suggest starting a full discussion focused on deletion instead. But not opposing renaming; agreed that name is better if kept. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:50, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
Opposed requests
[edit]- Category:Women in business by continent to Category:Businesswomen by continent – C2C: per Category:Businesswomen and CfD. Mclay1 (talk) 06:41, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose all. Businesswoman is actually a redirect to Businessperson. I changed the main article for Category:Businesswomen to Women in business, which is actually an independent article and the main category should be changed to Category:Women in business in accordance with all these subcategories and the existing subcategories Category:Organizations for women in business, Category:Jewish women in business and Category:Women in finance. Other categories like Category:Lesbian businesswomen and Category:Ancient businesswomen should be changed to "X women in business." Jahaza (talk) 14:35, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- So regardless of what this category name settles on, please include category redirects for all of these changes. The templates for Businesswomen by century are somewhat resiliant, but it would save me a ton of time modifying the template if those redirects remained. SMasonGarrison 22:03, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Jahaza, Actress redirects to Actor but we still have Category:Actresses. The main category was at Category:Women in business, but it was renamed at CfD. These need to follow suit. Mclay1 (talk) 02:25, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- "Businesswoman" refers to a person, "women in business" refers to a topic. It is completely plausible that there is a topic article Women in business while there are set categories called businesswomen. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:46, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:African women in business to Category:African businesswomen
- Category:Asian women in business to Category:Asian businesswomen
- Category:European women in business to Category:European businesswomen
- Category:Jewish women in business to Category:Jewish businesswomen
- Category:Women in business by nationality to Category:Businesswomen by nationality
- Category:Afghan women in business to Category:Afghan businesswomen
- Category:American women in business to Category:American businesswomen
- Category:Antigua and Barbuda women in business to Category:Antigua and Barbuda businesswomen
- Category:Argentine women in business to Category:Argentine businesswomen
- Category:Armenian women in business to Category:Armenian businesswomen
- Category:Australian women in business to Category:Australian businesswomen
- Category:Austrian women in business to Category:Austrian businesswomen
- Category:Bangladeshi women in business to Category:Bangladeshi businesswomen
- Category:Belgian women in business to Category:Belgian businesswomen
- Category:Bolivian women in business to Category:Bolivian businesswomen
- Category:Botswana women in business to Category:Botswana businesswomen
- Category:Brazilian women in business to Category:Brazilian businesswomen
- Category:British women in business to Category:British businesswomen
- Category:Bulgarian women in business to Category:Bulgarian businesswomen
- Category:Burmese women in business to Category:Burmese businesswomen
- Category:Burundian women in business to Category:Burundian businesswomen
- Category:Cambodian women in business to Category:Cambodian businesswomen
- Category:Cameroonian women in business to Category:Cameroonian businesswomen
- Category:Canadian women in business to Category:Canadian businesswomen
- Category:Chilean women in business to Category:Chilean businesswomen
- Category:Chinese women in business to Category:Chinese businesswomen
- Category:Colombian women in business to Category:Colombian businesswomen
- Category:Croatian women in business to Category:Croatian businesswomen
- Category:Cuban women in business to Category:Cuban businesswomen
- Category:Czech women in business to Category:Czech businesswomen
- Category:Danish women in business to Category:Danish businesswomen
- Category:Democratic Republic of the Congo women in business to Category:Democratic Republic of the Congo businesswomen
- Category:Dominican Republic women in business to Category:Dominican Republic businesswomen
- Category:Dutch women in business to Category:Dutch businesswomen
- Category:Emirati women in business to Category:Emirati businesswomen
- Category:Equatoguinean women in business to Category:Equatoguinean businesswomen
- Category:Estonian women in business to Category:Estonian businesswomen
- Category:Ethiopian women in business to Category:Ethiopian businesswomen
- Category:Filipino women in business to Category:Filipino businesswomen
- Category:Finnish women in business to Category:Finnish businesswomen
- Category:French women in business to Category:French businesswomen
- Category:German women in business to Category:German businesswomen
- Category:Ghanaian women in business to Category:Ghanaian businesswomen
- Category:Greek women in business to Category:Greek businesswomen
- Category:Haitian women in business to Category:Haitian businesswomen
- Category:Hungarian women in business to Category:Hungarian businesswomen
- Category:Icelandic women in business to Category:Icelandic businesswomen
- Category:Indian women in business to Category:Indian businesswomen
- Category:Indonesian women in business to Category:Indonesian businesswomen
- Category:Iranian women in business to Category:Iranian businesswomen
- Category:Irish women in business to Category:Irish businesswomen
- Category:Israeli women in business to Category:Israeli businesswomen
- Category:Italian women in business to Category:Italian businesswomen
- Category:Ivorian women in business to Category:Ivorian businesswomen
- Category:Jamaican women in business to Category:Jamaican businesswomen
- Category:Japanese women in business to Category:Japanese businesswomen
- Category:Jordanian women in business to Category:Jordanian businesswomen
- Category:Kenyan women in business to Category:Kenyan businesswomen
- Category:Korean women in business to Category:Korean businesswomen
- Category:Kuwaiti women in business to Category:Kuwaiti businesswomen
- Category:Latvian women in business to Category:Latvian businesswomen
- Category:Lebanese women in business to Category:Lebanese businesswomen
- Category:Lithuanian women in business to Category:Lithuanian businesswomen
- Category:Malawian women in business to Category:Malawian businesswomen
- Category:Malaysian women in business to Category:Malaysian businesswomen
- Category:Maltese women in business to Category:Maltese businesswomen
- Category:Mauritian women in business to Category:Mauritian businesswomen
- Category:Mexican women in business to Category:Mexican businesswomen
- Category:Monegasque women in business to Category:Monegasque businesswomen
- Category:Moroccan women in business to Category:Moroccan businesswomen
- Category:Namibian women in business to Category:Namibian businesswomen
- Category:Nepalese women in business to Category:Nepalese businesswomen
- Category:New Zealand women in business to Category:New Zealand businesswomen
- Category:Nicaraguan women in business to Category:Nicaraguan businesswomen
- Category:Nigerian women in business to Category:Nigerian businesswomen
- Category:Norwegian women in business to Category:Norwegian businesswomen
- Category:Pakistani women in business to Category:Pakistani businesswomen
- Category:Papua New Guinean women in business to Category:Papua New Guinean businesswomen
- Category:Peruvian women in business to Category:Peruvian businesswomen
- Category:Polish women in business to Category:Polish businesswomen
- Category:Portuguese women in business to Category:Portuguese businesswomen
- Category:Rhodesian women in business to Category:Rhodesian businesswomen
- Category:Romanian women in business to Category:Romanian businesswomen
- Category:Russian women in business to Category:Russian businesswomen
- Category:Rwandan women in business to Category:Rwandan businesswomen
- Category:Salvadoran women in business to Category:Salvadoran businesswomen
- Category:Samoan women in business to Category:Samoan businesswomen
- Category:Saudi Arabian women in business to Category:Saudi Arabian businesswomen
- Category:Senegalese women in business to Category:Senegalese businesswomen
- Category:Serbian women in business to Category:Serbian businesswomen
- Category:Seychellois women in business to Category:Seychellois businesswomen
- Category:Sierra Leonean women in business to Category:Sierra Leonean businesswomen
- Category:Singaporean women in business to Category:Singaporean businesswomen
- Category:Slovenian women in business to Category:Slovenian businesswomen
- Category:Somalian women in business to Category:Somalian businesswomen
- Category:South African women in business to Category:South African businesswomen
- Category:South Korean women in business to Category:South Korean businesswomen
- Category:Soviet women in business to Category:Soviet businesswomen
- Category:Spanish women in business to Category:Spanish businesswomen
- Category:Sri Lankan women in business to Category:Sri Lankan businesswomen
- Category:Swedish women in business to Category:Swedish businesswomen
- Category:Swiss women in business to Category:Swiss businesswomen
- Category:Taiwanese women in business to Category:Taiwanese businesswomen
- Category:Tanzanian women in business to Category:Tanzanian businesswomen
- Category:Thai women in business to Category:Thai businesswomen
- Category:Togolese women in business to Category:Togolese businesswomen
- Category:Tongan women in business to Category:Tongan businesswomen
- Category:Tunisian women in business to Category:Tunisian businesswomen
- Category:Turkish women in business to Category:Turkish businesswomen
- Category:Ugandan women in business to Category:Ugandan businesswomen
- Category:Ukrainian women in business to Category:Ukrainian businesswomen
- Category:Uruguayan women in business to Category:Uruguayan businesswomen
- Category:Venezuelan women in business to Category:Venezuelan businesswomen
- Category:Vietnamese women in business to Category:Vietnamese businesswomen
- Category:Zambian women in business to Category:Zambian businesswomen
- Category:Zimbabwean women in business to Category:Zimbabwean businesswomen
- Category:English women in business to Category:English businesswomen
- Category:Scottish women in business to Category:Scottish businesswomen
- Category:Welsh women in business to Category:Welsh businesswomen
- Category:Puerto Rican women in business to Category:Puerto Rican businesswomen
- Category:African-American women in business to Category:African-American businesswomen
- Category:Hong Kong women in business to Category:Hong Kong businesswomen
- Category:Macau women in business to Category:Macau businesswomen
- Category:Faroese women in business to Category:Faroese businesswomen
- Category:Yoruba women in business to Category:Yoruba businesswomen
- Oppose all. Businesswoman is actually a redirect to Businessperson. I changed the main article for Category:Businesswomen to Women in business, which is actually an independent article and the main category should be changed to Category:Women in business in accordance with all these subcategories and the existing subcategories Category:Organizations for women in business, Category:Jewish women in business and Category:Women in finance. Other categories like Category:Lesbian businesswomen and Category:Ancient businesswomen should be changed to "X women in business." Jahaza (talk) 14:35, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Wallis and Futuna cuisine to Category:Cuisine of Wallis and Futuna – C2C: Parent Category:Culture of Wallis and Futuna. NLeeuw (talk) 20:37, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think C2C applies here. The cuisine category format doesn't need to match the culture category; see Category:Cuisine by country and Category:Oceanian cuisine by dependent territory. I left these out of my similar nomination below because Oceanian territories tend to follow the format for countries rather than country subdivisions. I think we'd need a full discussion for all of them to change it. Mclay1 (talk) 09:31, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Mclay1 Hmm it's a good point. In dozens of category trees, "cuisine" is a child of "culture", but this is not always so. However, in the main tree, Category:Cuisine by country is a child of Category:Food and drink by country, which in turn is a child of Category:Culture by country. So I think C2C may apply in cases when there is no intermediate layer about "food and drink". Nevertheless, I agree that some caution should be observed, especially when there is a main article which has a Fooian cuisine title. I'm not nominating those for now. They should be discussed in the main space. NLeeuw (talk) 10:43, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Mclay1: are you (still) opposing this? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:14, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I don't think it qualifies for speedy. Mclay1 (talk) 15:51, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Mclay1: are you (still) opposing this? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:14, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Mclay1 Hmm it's a good point. In dozens of category trees, "cuisine" is a child of "culture", but this is not always so. However, in the main tree, Category:Cuisine by country is a child of Category:Food and drink by country, which in turn is a child of Category:Culture by country. So I think C2C may apply in cases when there is no intermediate layer about "food and drink". Nevertheless, I agree that some caution should be observed, especially when there is a main article which has a Fooian cuisine title. I'm not nominating those for now. They should be discussed in the main space. NLeeuw (talk) 10:43, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think C2C applies here. The cuisine category format doesn't need to match the culture category; see Category:Cuisine by country and Category:Oceanian cuisine by dependent territory. I left these out of my similar nomination below because Oceanian territories tend to follow the format for countries rather than country subdivisions. I think we'd need a full discussion for all of them to change it. Mclay1 (talk) 09:31, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Maithili poets to Category:Maithili-language poets – C2C: Per consistency with the "Foo-language [writers/poets]" categories in Writers by language - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 03:34, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Awadhi writers to Category:Awadhi-language writers
- Category:Buryat writers to Category:Buryat-language writers
- Category:Bikolano writers to Category:Bikolano-language writers
- Category:Bikolano poets to Category:Bikolano-language poets
- Category:Writers of Esperanto literature to Category:Esperanto-language writers
- Category:Syriac writers to Category:Syriac-language writers
- Category:Dingal poets to Category:Dingal-language poets
- Category:Galician poets to Category:Galician-language poets
- Category:Judeo-Tat poets to Category:Judeo-Tat language poets
- Category:Kannada poets to Category:Kannada-language poets
- Category:Kashmiri poets to Category:Kashmiri-language poets
- Category:Khowar poets to Category:Khowar-language poets
- Category:Writers in Jamaican Patois to Category:Jamaican Patois-language writers
- Category:Old Church Slavonic writers to Category:Old Church Slavonic-language writers
- Category:Moroccan Darija writers to Category:Moroccan Darija-language writers
- Category:Writers in Latin to Category:Latin-language writers
- Category:Bengali screenwriters to Category:Bengali-language screenwriters
- Category:Kannada screenwriters to Category:Kannada-language screenwriters
- Category:Malayalam screenwriters to Category:Malayalam-language screenwriters
- Category:Marathi screenwriters to Category:Marathi-language screenwriters
- Category:Odia screenwriters to Category:Odia-language screenwriters
- Category:Punjabi screenwriters to Category:Punjabi-language screenwriters
- Category:Tamil screenwriters to Category:Tamil-language screenwriters
- Category:Tamil television writers to Category:Tamil-language television writers
- Category:Telugu screenwriters to Category:Telugu-language screenwriters
- Category:Hindi dramatists and playwrights to Category:Hindi-language dramatists and playwrights
- Category:Kannada dramatists and playwrights to Category:Kannada-language dramatists and playwrights
- Category:Odia dramatists and playwrights to Category:Odia-language dramatists and playwrights
- Category:Sanskrit dramatists and playwrights to Category:Sanskrit-language dramatists and playwrights
- Category:Tamil dramatists and playwrights to Category:Tamil-language dramatists and playwrights
- Oppose, the categories (should) only have "-language" in case of ambiguity. For example French is ambiguous because it can also mean from France. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:15, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
- There are some cases here were ambiguities occur – are Category:Galician poets poets from Galicia (Spain) or Galician-language poets or Galicians who are poets (or something related to the other Galicia)? Currently, it is categorised under Category:Writers from Galicia (Spain) and Category:Poets by language. Similar applies to some of the languages spoken on the Indian subcontinent. Anyhow, to find out what the categories categorise and are meant to categorise, it would need full CfD case by case. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 14:37, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest that this be taken to a full CfD, since I also have similar concerns. TheBritinator (talk) 10:41, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, @TheBritinator; ok to rename the very first one, Category:Maithili poets, a subcategory of Category:Maithili-language writers? Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:28, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Kaffet i halsen: Maithili seems to be a language only, without any risk of ambiguity, or am I wrong about that? Marcocapelle (talk) 13:40, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- The article is at Maithili language because of Maithili. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 19:07, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Kaffet i halsen: Maithils is an ethno-linguistic group defined by the speaking of the Maithili language so there is no ambiguity about this being about language. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:00, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- The article is at Maithili language because of Maithili. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 19:07, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Kaffet i halsen: Maithili seems to be a language only, without any risk of ambiguity, or am I wrong about that? Marcocapelle (talk) 13:40, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, @TheBritinator; ok to rename the very first one, Category:Maithili poets, a subcategory of Category:Maithili-language writers? Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:28, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, the categories (should) only have "-language" in case of ambiguity. For example French is ambiguous because it can also mean from France. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:15, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
[edit]- None currently
Moved to full discussion
[edit]- Category:Sumo people from Aichi Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Aichi Prefecture – C2C: Parents are "Martial artists from Foo"/"Sportspeople from Foo" Kaffet i halsen (talk) 15:49, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Sumo people from Akita Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Akita Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Aomori Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Aomori Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Chiba Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Chiba Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Ehime Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Ehime Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Fukui Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Fukui Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Fukuoka Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Fukuoka Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Fukushima Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Fukushima Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Gifu Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Gifu Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Gunma Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Gunma Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Hiroshima Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Hiroshima Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Hokkaido to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Hokkaido
- Category:Sumo people from Hyōgo Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Hyōgo Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Ibaraki Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Ibaraki Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Ishikawa Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Ishikawa Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Iwate Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Iwate Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Kagawa Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Kagawa Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Kagoshima Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Kagoshima Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Kanagawa Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Kanagawa Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Kōchi Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Kōchi Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Kumamoto Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Kumamoto Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Kyoto Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Kyoto Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Mie Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Mie Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Miyagi Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Miyagi Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Miyazaki Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Miyazaki Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Nagano Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Nagano Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Nagasaki Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Nagasaki Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Nara Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Nara Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Niigata Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Niigata Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Ōita Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Ōita Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Okayama Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Okayama Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Okinawa Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Okinawa Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Osaka Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Osaka Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Saga Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Saga Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Saitama Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Saitama Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Shiga Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Shiga Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Shimane Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Shimane Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Shizuoka Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Shizuoka Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Tochigi Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Tochigi Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Tokushima Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Tokushima Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Tokyo Metropolis to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Tokyo Metropolis
- Category:Sumo people from Tokyo to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Tokyo
- Category:Sumo people from Tottori Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Tottori Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Toyama Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Toyama Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Wakayama Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Wakayama Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Yamagata Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Yamagata Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Yamaguchi Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Yamaguchi Prefecture
- Category:Sumo people from Yamanashi Prefecture to Category:Sumo wrestlers from Yamanashi Prefecture
- Category:Japanese sumo people by prefecture to Category:Japanese sumo wrestlers by prefecture
- Oppose: Not everyone associated with Sumo is a wrestler per se; for example, there are referees and other staff members that might belong to a Sumo stable but aren't wrestlers. There are also members of non-Sumo world who might be officially associated with the sport in some capacity, either as board members or official advisors. This category name change seems to narrow the scope of the category to only the wrestlers themselves. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:26, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- I understand all may not be wrestlers with the current name but currently, all members of the categories are wrestlers and I don't think we want to have board members or official members in a subcategory of martial artists, e.g. Category:Martial artists from Chiba Prefecture. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 10:39, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- It might be wise to post a
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about this at WT:JAPAN and Wikipedia talk:Sumo for additional input. The fact that the category is currently only populated by "rikishi" doesn't necessarily (at least in my opinion) mean it will always be that way. There already exists a Category:Japanese sumo wrestlers based on nationality so perhaps Category:Japanese sumo wrestlers by prefecture should be made a subcategory of that. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:03, 19 September 2025 (UTC)- If we create new categories to subcategorise sumo wrestlers by prefecture, they will become subcategories of sumo people. And if all the articles in these categories are for sumo wrestlers, those sumo people categories will be empty apart from the one subcategory for sumo wrestlers. Then someone will propose combining the sumo people and sumo wrestler categories to remove a redundant category layer. It all seems like a waste of time if there are no articles for notable non-wrestler sumo people. Mclay1 (talk) 00:40, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Sumo announcers already exists, but there are plenty of other non-wrestler categories in ja:Category:相撲に関する人物 containing articles which might meet English Wikipedia's notability guidelines. It seems that Category:Japanese sumo wrestlers is broader in scope than Category:Japanese sumo wrestlers by prefecture: so, it makes more sense (at least to me) for the latter to be a subcategory of the former. It seems (at least to me) a bit odd and redundant have a cateory for Japanese sumo wrestlers and a category for Japanese sumo wrestlers by prefecture at the same level of categorization since they would almost certainly include the same articles.Finally, your post here actually deleted my comment, which shouldn't really happen per WP:TPO. While I'm sure it wasn't done intentionally, it's something that shouldn't happen. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:42, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, Category:Japanese sumo wrestlers by prefecture would be a subcategory of Category:Japanese sumo wrestlers; there is no disagreement on that. (Your comment being removed was clearly just an edit conflict caused by the automated script and obviously not my fault.) Mclay1 (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- The removal was almost certainly an accident; however, when you use a script or other type of automated tool to edit, you're still responsible for the edits you make per WP:MEATBOT. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:41, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- I would also like to add that we to a larger extent not tend to categorise on-field sportspeople together with announcers, coaches, or administrators in by subdivision/populated place categories. The most are in the format Category:Tennis players from Indiana instead of Category:Tennis people from Indiana although some outliers exist, especially in Canada and Japan. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 12:06, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, Category:Japanese sumo wrestlers by prefecture would be a subcategory of Category:Japanese sumo wrestlers; there is no disagreement on that. (Your comment being removed was clearly just an edit conflict caused by the automated script and obviously not my fault.) Mclay1 (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Sumo announcers already exists, but there are plenty of other non-wrestler categories in ja:Category:相撲に関する人物 containing articles which might meet English Wikipedia's notability guidelines. It seems that Category:Japanese sumo wrestlers is broader in scope than Category:Japanese sumo wrestlers by prefecture: so, it makes more sense (at least to me) for the latter to be a subcategory of the former. It seems (at least to me) a bit odd and redundant have a cateory for Japanese sumo wrestlers and a category for Japanese sumo wrestlers by prefecture at the same level of categorization since they would almost certainly include the same articles.Finally, your post here actually deleted my comment, which shouldn't really happen per WP:TPO. While I'm sure it wasn't done intentionally, it's something that shouldn't happen. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:42, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- If we create new categories to subcategorise sumo wrestlers by prefecture, they will become subcategories of sumo people. And if all the articles in these categories are for sumo wrestlers, those sumo people categories will be empty apart from the one subcategory for sumo wrestlers. Then someone will propose combining the sumo people and sumo wrestler categories to remove a redundant category layer. It all seems like a waste of time if there are no articles for notable non-wrestler sumo people. Mclay1 (talk) 00:40, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- It might be wise to post a
- I understand all may not be wrestlers with the current name but currently, all members of the categories are wrestlers and I don't think we want to have board members or official members in a subcategory of martial artists, e.g. Category:Martial artists from Chiba Prefecture. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 10:39, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose: Not everyone associated with Sumo is a wrestler per se; for example, there are referees and other staff members that might belong to a Sumo stable but aren't wrestlers. There are also members of non-Sumo world who might be officially associated with the sport in some capacity, either as board members or official advisors. This category name change seems to narrow the scope of the category to only the wrestlers themselves. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:26, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Kaffet i halsen: are you planning to take these to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Bedfordshire to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Bedfordshire – C2C: per Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707). Mclay1 (talk) 06:15, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Bedford to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Bedford
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Berkshire to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Berkshire
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- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Callington to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Callington
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Camelford to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Camelford
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Fowey to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Fowey
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- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for St Ives to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for St Ives
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- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for West Looe to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for West Looe
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Cumberland to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Cumberland
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- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Okehampton to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Okehampton
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- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Dorset to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Dorset
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- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Shaftesbury to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Shaftesbury
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Weymouth to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Weymouth
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in County Durham to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in County Durham
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for the City of Durham to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for the City of Durham
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Essex to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Essex
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Harwich to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Harwich
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Gloucestershire to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Gloucestershire
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- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Cirencester to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Cirencester
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- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Hampshire to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Hampshire
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- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Southampton to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Southampton
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Hertfordshire to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Hertfordshire
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Kent to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Kent
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- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Northumberland to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Northumberland
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Somerset to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Somerset
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- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Newcastle-under-Lyme to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Newcastle-under-Lyme
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Suffolk to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Suffolk
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Dunwich to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Dunwich
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Surrey to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Surrey
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- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Surrey to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Surrey
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Sussex to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Sussex
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for New Shoreham to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for New Shoreham
- Category:Members of the pre-1707 Parliament of England for the University of Cambridge to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for the University of Cambridge
- Category:Members of the pre-1707 Parliament of England for the University of Oxford to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for the University of Oxford
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Warwickshire to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Warwickshire
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Coventry to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Coventry
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- Category:Members of the pre-1707 English Parliament for constituencies in Wiltshire to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Wiltshire
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Chippenham to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Chippenham
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Great Bedwyn to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Great Bedwyn
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Hindon to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Hindon
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Malmesbury to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Malmesbury
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Worcestershire to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Worcestershire
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Droitwich to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Droitwich
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Worcester to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Worcester
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Worcestershire to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Worcestershire
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for constituencies in Yorkshire to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for constituencies in Yorkshire
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Hedon to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Hedon
- Category:Members of the Parliament of England for Kingston upon Hull to Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707) for Kingston upon Hull
- OBJECT the "pre-1707" is redundant, it's the ones with "pre-1707" that should be renamed the other way. DuncanHill (talk) 11:21, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- @DuncanHill, that is the format that was decided on at CFD to avoid editors confusing them with British parliament (even though it has a different name): see here and here. These subcategories should have been moved a long time ago. Mclay1 (talk) 11:29, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Given that they haven't been and the CFDs were so long ago, perhaps it would be better to have a new discussion rather than just jumping in with a mass speedy. I maintain my objection. DuncanHill (talk) 11:41, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- @DuncanHill Are you planning to start that CfD? Mclay1 (talk) 11:54, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- I thought you were the one wanting to change the names? I was just coming here to point out that the head article is Parliament of England, so the cats that match that are named correctly. ANyway, your mass nomination has been objected to, and someone will move them to the right section at some point. This page is a bugger to edit when there are mass noms. DuncanHill (talk) 11:56, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- I'm trying to correct the inconsistent names to match the parent, Category:Members of the Parliament of England (pre-1707), which was named by consensus. You are the one who is suggesting we change that. There are currently three different naming formats in that category. If you're not planning on changing the established format, why are you objecting to fixing the inconsistency? Mclay1 (talk) 12:34, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- I thought you were the one wanting to change the names? I was just coming here to point out that the head article is Parliament of England, so the cats that match that are named correctly. ANyway, your mass nomination has been objected to, and someone will move them to the right section at some point. This page is a bugger to edit when there are mass noms. DuncanHill (talk) 11:56, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- @DuncanHill Are you planning to start that CfD? Mclay1 (talk) 11:54, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Given that they haven't been and the CFDs were so long ago, perhaps it would be better to have a new discussion rather than just jumping in with a mass speedy. I maintain my objection. DuncanHill (talk) 11:41, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- @DuncanHill, that is the format that was decided on at CFD to avoid editors confusing them with British parliament (even though it has a different name): see here and here. These subcategories should have been moved a long time ago. Mclay1 (talk) 11:29, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- I've started a CfD. Mclay1 (talk) 07:22, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- OBJECT the "pre-1707" is redundant, it's the ones with "pre-1707" that should be renamed the other way. DuncanHill (talk) 11:21, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Category:The Batman (franchise) to Category:The Batman Epic Crime Saga – C2D: To match the WP:COMMONNAME used to refer to this franchise. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 22:43, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Main article is currently at The Batman (film). I'm not sure this qualifies under WP:COMMONNAME, but even if it does it does not qualify as C2D. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:15, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- @The Bushranger: Then in that case, I think this should just be moved to Category:The Batman (film) instead, because the film is the film is the main proponent and subject of this planned franchise thus far. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 15:51, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Main article is currently at The Batman (film). I'm not sure this qualifies under WP:COMMONNAME, but even if it does it does not qualify as C2D. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:15, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Then it should go through a full CfD. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:07, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Roger that. I have started a CfD at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 September 14#Category:The Batman (franchise). — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 21:13, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Then it should go through a full CfD. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:07, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Episode lists with incorrectly formatted alternate air dates to Category:Episode lists with incorrectly formatted alternative air dates – C2B: per MOS:COMMONALITY and the actual label in the template. Also update Module:Episode list. Mclay1 (talk) 07:10, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- No comment on the proposal itself, but this isn't C2B (and don't think really speedable). --Gonnym (talk) 08:15, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices. Using alternative instead of alternate per MOS:COMMONALITY is an established naming practice, and I've used it to speedy in the past. Mclay1 (talk) 11:16, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose This is a maintenance category. It is monitored by bots (mine included) for maintaining/fixing {{Episode list}} tables. Needs discussion.
- ButlerBlog (talk) 19:55, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- No comment on the proposal itself, but this isn't C2B (and don't think really speedable). --Gonnym (talk) 08:15, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
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