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Good article reassessment for Kolkata Metro
[edit]Kolkata Metro has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 05:05, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
There appears to have been a recent effort at this article to seriously distort the actual perpetrators of the violence. The violence as is well known was mainly perpetratred by leaders and supporters of the Indian National Congress. It appears members of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and the Bharatiya Janata Party were charged in one FIR in Delhi. On the basis of this these have been added to the infobox. An entire section has been also been created for them (most of which is unrelated to the violence). These are the citations used to support these additions to the infobox.
The Legacy of Militancy in Punjab by Inderjit Singh Jaijee and Dona Suri (SAGE Publishing, 2019):
In 1991, the Congress took power at the Centre again under P. V. Narasimha Rao. Never again does the Congress appoint any commission, committee or SIT to review anything about the November 1984 riots. Between 1956 and 1993, Delhi was a Union Territory without a Legislative Assembly. The BJP swept the election to the 1993 Delhi Assembly. It is not true that BJP workers remained entirely innocent during the riots. The names of 49 of them figured in FIRs.[21] Nevertheless, Madan Lal Khurana, the new Chief Minister of Delhi, not only appointed the Narula Committee to go into riot cases but also personally fought with the Central Government to get affidavits from the Misra Commission released so that action on them could be taken. A year later (1994), a Delhi trial court had again initiated proceedings against Sajjan Kumar and 12 others.
[21] 14 FIRs (arson, rioting, attempt to murder and dacoity) naming 49 BJP and RSS workers. Some of the prominent Delhi BJP and RSS workers against whom cases have been registered are Pritam Singh, Ram Kumar Jain, Ram Chander Gupta, Rattan Lal, Gian Lal Jain, Chander Sain, Pradeep Kumar Jain, Hans Raj Gupta, Babu Lal, Ved Mahipal Sharma, Padam Kumar Jain and Suresh Chand Jain. The largest FIR, 446/93 dated August 1993, registered in connection with the 1984 riots in which 17 persons have been named. Most of the 14 FIRs lodged against the BJP and RSS workers have been registered at the Sriniwaspuri Police Station in South Delhi. The cases are from areas such as Hari Nagar, Ashram, Sunlight Colony and Bhagwan Nagar. One of the accused, Ram Kumar Jain, named in FIR no 315/92 dated June 18 1992, was the election agent of the then Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee when he contested the Lok Sabha polls in 1980.
'RSS was silent during the 1984 riots. At places, it was implicated in the violence' by Ajaz Ashraf (Scroll.in, 2015) in an interview with Gautam Navlakha:
Ashraf: The report Who are the Guilty? created the narrative of powerful Congress ministers fanning the 1984 riots against the Sikhs. It was a joint report of the Peoples Union for Democratic Rights and the People’s Union for Civil Liberties. ... Ashraf: Did you come across Sangh members pitching in at the relief camps? Navlakha: Our report also implicates RSS people in the riots at some places. Ashraf: Are you saying the RSS people were at the forefront of the riots? Navlakha: Let us not mix it up – the 1984 riots were carried out by the Congress. But at some places the RSS people did play a role. It doesn’t surprise me. Given that the Congress was stoking the Hindu sentiment, and trying to exploit it for its own end, it jived well with the RSS.
The report being referred to, Who Are The Guilty? by People's Union for Civil Liberties (PUCL) and the People's Union for Democratic Rights (1984), has only this to say about these parties:
We also heard of cases where even Sikhs close to the Congress (I) leaders were not spared. In Sajjan Kumar's house at Paschimpuri on November 6, we were introduced to an elderly Sikh gentlemen who claimed to be an old Congressman whose shop was burnt by miscreants. He said that he knew who the culprits were. When our team members asked him why he did not file a complaint with the police, he said he would do it at the right time. Mr. Sajjan Kumar's secretary drew us aside and dropped a hint that the RSS workers had been behind the arson. He however could not name any particular RSS leader or activist. ... OTHERS INVOLVED [BLOCK-3:] Mr. Ashwini, BJP worker
Neither the interview nor the FIR appear to justify an inclusion of these parties in the infobox for this massacre/pogrom (it can still be handled in the body). We can be wary of RSS/BJP/Hindutva at enwiki but still not get carried away by WP:UNDUE and WP:POVPUSH efforts. These changes to me appear to dilute the actual/major perpetrators of the violence and akin to the efforts at including the INC at the 2002 Gujarat violence infobox a while back, on the basis of peripheral involvement by some of its members ([1]) or the constant attempt by POV editors to insert India/Mukti Bahini in the infobox of Bangladesh genocide (on the basis that some Indian military/Bahini personnel were involved in civilian violence).
I wanted to address this at the Talk page but there have been no sincere efforts to address these serious NPOV issues there, and I bring it to the wider community. While this is an WP:NPOVN issue as well, I believe the project might be able to handle it better. Gotitbro (talk) 18:00, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Gouri G. Kishan#Requested move 30 July 2025
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Gouri G. Kishan#Requested move 30 July 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 07:17, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
Help with removing a word, "popular"
[edit]I made a request at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Malabar_rebellion#Semi-protected_edit_request_on_5_August_2025 but it was rejected. Please do something about it as I believe my request is genuine 2409:40F2:2A:93F9:686D:FBFF:FE2D:5508 (talk) 18:30, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
There is an RFC at RFC at Talk:Zain Imam #RFC. Which one should be used in the InfoBox? that may be to the interest of members of this WikiProject. Servite et contribuere (talk) 01:50, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
Cross post: Talk:Supreme Court of India
[edit]Cross-posting a discussion from the talk page of SCI: Talk:Supreme Court of India#Proposed change for SCI image in Infobox court case to change the current image used for SCI court cases from the "Emblem" to the "Seal." Feedback/thoughts welcome! WeWake (talk) 02:58, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
FAR for Rashtrakuta Empire
[edit]I have nominated Rashtrakuta Empire for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 01:21, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
The article Cotton Green railway station has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Tagged as Unreferenced for 15 years. No other language has a reliably sourced article from which to translate. I notified the WP Trains 4 times in the past 30 days that there is a backlog of unsourced train station articles. I was rebuffed.
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The article Dockyard Road railway station has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Tagged as Unreferenced for 15 years. No other language has a sourced article from which to translate. WP:NTRAINSTATION. I notified the WP Trains 4 times in the past 30 days that there is a backlog of unsourced train station articles. I was rebuffed.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Bearian (talk) 01:51, 10 August 2025 (UTC)