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The article is in need of overhaul. It should be rearranged into sections for displays, tracking, input devices, processing, and other additional categories. If no one does this before me, I will do it. JustMakeTheAccount (talk) 02:42, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there. I'm trying to add new artists to the Uses > Visual art section, but these are being removed. The reasoning has been: "don't seem significant enough to go into this article" and "this isn't a place to mention an individual artist like this". This was then flagged as an edit war, with instruction "Seek consensus on the talk page rather than trying to force this in via edit warring". So I'd like to do so, and seek consensus rather than outright removals, as I have a number of artists to add to this section.
My question is, what is deemed "significant" here, and what does "like this" mean re: adding individual artists to this section? The first artist added is a known (on Wiki) artist, the examples are adding to the field (i.e. voice recognition based AR contemporary art), and the references are according to requirements (and are government and/or council links). If someone can provide an example of what is appropriate here re: adding artists like this, i.e. a consensus on format, that would be great. I can then continue to add artists that have contributed to this field. Townstrider (talk) 00:21, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not meant to be a directory of artists. We haven't even established that this artist ought to be listed here, let alone that even more should be added. MrOllie (talk) 01:50, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't mentioned creating a directory of artists. Going back to the question at hand (so we can get to a consensus): what is deemed "significant" here, and what does "like this" mean re: adding individual artists to this section? Please see the editing policy.
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So as above, the deletions were without clear explanation. The changes need to be explained so we can move on and work on a solution. The outcome I'm seeking is the accepted and correct way to add an artist here as per the existing artists added. Townstrider (talk) 02:16, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The explanation is clear - there is no apparent reason to write a paragraph about this particular artist on this article. You're not going to be able to reverse the burden here, the WP:ONUS is on you to justify the addition, not on others. Are you associated with this artist in some fashion? MrOllie (talk) 02:33, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This was not stated: "there is no apparent reason to write a paragraph about this particular artist on this article". Justification has been given: "The first artist added is a known (on Wiki) artist, the examples are adding to the field (i.e. voice recognition based AR contemporary art), and the references are according to requirements (and are government and/or council links)". I'm fine if the artist is not included, but in good faith, what is the correct way to include an artist? I don't think it's appropriate to ask for personal details on this page, it's concerning and falls under harassment. Townstrider (talk) 02:54, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, you haven't posted at WP:ANI as far as I can see, you may have forgotten to submit? (Also, I really wouldn't recommend doing that, this is clearly a content dispute and not harassment.) JaggedHamster (talk) 07:02, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have contacted an admin as suggested on that page, rather than submit. So I'm working through it that way thanks. The user suggested I was creating a directory of artists, which I wasn't and never stated. The user gave a "new" explanation that wasn't given in the first place, but said it was. The user asked for personal details on this page, instead of private talk, which is not appropriate or needed at all in this context. In addition, you do not see the private conversation we are having which has more inflammatory content. I have complied with all requests. Please keep on topic from here, and let's reach a consensus on the actual item. From what I understand we should be collaborating re: finding a solution. Townstrider (talk) 07:21, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
On that, it's not just the Visual Arts section that's too directory like, I've gone through and removed what seemed the worst cruft, there's still a fair bit of tidying up that could be done though. JaggedHamster (talk) 07:20, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. It needs work. I am happy to tidy up the Visual Arts piece re: directory like - if I get an indication of how it should be formatted. I'm here in good faith, wanting to improve this page. Townstrider (talk) 07:22, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I should add. Some content in the Visual Arts section (existing) is factually not correct, but I won't be making edits of any kind on this page further until this issue is resolved. Townstrider (talk) 07:26, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Visual art: summary-style, no directory (proposal)
Slimmed “Uses” → “Applications” to avoid WP:NOTDIRECTORY. If we keep “Visual art,” I’m for a short overview + a capped set of representative works with significant secondary coverage (no artist list). Happy to workshop 2–3 candidates here first. —Philo39 (talk) 04:26, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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