Wikipedia:Why was BFDI not on Wikipedia?
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Battle for Dream Island (BFDI) is an animated web series on YouTube created by Chinese-American twin brothers Cary and Michael Huang. The show was not covered by a standalone Wikipedia article for nearly 16 years, despite its YouTube channel having over 2 billion views and 3 million subscribers.[a] This is because BFDI was believed to have not received enough significant coverage in independent, reliable sources to meet the general notability guideline until late 2025. Articles without such sourcing would not meet the requirements for neutral point of view and verifiability.
This essay explains why BFDI pages were repeatedly deleted and eventually creation protected (or "salted") so that only administrators could re-create them, until the article finally was recreated. If you are new to Wikipedia, then this essay is for you. For experienced editors, this can also be a case study on Wikipedia's core policies and guidelines like notability, what Wikipedia is and is not, and disruptive editing, as well as how consensus can change.
Other franchises like Henry Stickmin and Inanimate Insanity (the latter is inspired by BFDI) may also be popular, but they still fail to meet the said policies and guidelines. Other examples of non-notable topics that have been the subject of repeated creation attempts are listed at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Perennial requests. As such, several users have used the term "WP:BFDI" to broadly reference the fact that a subject's popularity does not guarantee notability. These policies have nothing to do with the quality of the works themselves, but rather, are meant to reflect whether or not a subject is capable of having an article written about it from a neutral point of view.
Policies and guidelines
Inclusion criteria and neutrality
On Wikipedia, articles must be written from a neutral point of view. This is one of Wikipedia's fundamental five principles. Wikipedia's notability system is crafted around this concept. There should be enough sources for us to see what the significant points of view on a topic are. For example, if there are multiple reviews published about BFDI, we can talk about what the critics liked and what people thought about it.
It is also important for sources to be reliable. Websites hosting self-published and/or user-generated content like Facebook and Fandom are unreliable because anyone there can publish anything, including false and/or biased information. People who disapprove of BFDI could write (or pay someone to write) unduly negative reviews about the show, which would not be representative of the true consensus of critics. This is why sources need to be reliable. A reputable publication would see if the review came from a professional critic and if they are being genuine.
Specific criteria
On Wikipedia, the word notability is very different from how it is used by everybody else. Normally, notable is just another word for being important. However, on Wikipedia, notable means that an article about the subject can be written if it
- has a neutral point of view
- is verifiable with reliable sources
- gives detailed, encyclopedic coverage of the topic.
There have been countless failed attempts to find sources which fit these criteria. Notability is an extension of Wikipedia's verifiability and neutrality policies.
It is also important to notice the plural in reliable sources.
IMDb and Fandom were common sources found in attempted BFDI articles; these websites are user-generated since anyone can edit their content. Wikipedia holds articles to a much higher standard of reliability, where the facts are almost guaranteed to be correct, hence reliable. Other common sources are YouTube links to the web series itself. However, they do not contribute to notability as they are primary sources not independent from the subject. Articles that predominantly base their information on primary sources are less objective, especially when interpretations of these sources come from, in this case, a huge BFDI fan.
A common misunderstanding is that notability exists purely to limit knowledge to only what is deemed "important". This is not true. Here is Wikipedia's founder on its purpose:
| “ | Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing.—Jimmy Wales[1] | ” |
Our goal is to document knowledge in an organized fashion, no matter how mundane or important they are. If an unbiased, reliable article could be made about BFDI, such an article would have been made a long time ago.
A similar case occurred with SMG4, an Australian-based YouTube channel that creates Machinima videos featuring characters from Super Mario and other Nintendo franchises.[2] After extensive discussions over notability, SMG4 ultimately became a redirect to Glitch Productions, an animation company run by SMG4's creators.[3] As for BFDI, however, there were no Wikipedia articles or lists that meaningfully dedicate a section to BFDI (see Special:Search/"Battle for Dream Island"). This means that unlike SMG4, a BFDI redirect could not lead anywhere and thus could not be created as such.
Reliability of specific sources
YouTube, Fandom, and IMDb had been some of the most common sources found in pages about BFDI. Such sources are considered generally unreliable because they are user-generated and self-published sources. Generally speaking, Fandom and IMDb can be edited by anyone with an account without editorial oversight. YouTube videos can be considered reliable sources if they are published by reputable agencies, such as Reuters, or by subject-matter experts, such as a renowned professor.
No original research and primary sources
BFDI videos published by jacknjellify are considered primary sources. These videos do provide insight for those unfamiliar with the show; however, any interpretation made by Wikipedia editors (e.g. character development, canonicity of BFDI media, and "theories" about BFDI) must be backed with a secondary source. Not doing so would violate the no original research policy. Not only that, videos are limited to the creator's perspective, compromising the videos' objectivity.
Popularity is not the same as notability
While a subject's popularity may suggest notability, it does not automatically guarantee notability in the context of Wikipedia. Though the channel hosting BFDI has over 3 million subscribers and over 2 billion views,[4][a] these numbers alone would not have justified the creation of a BFDI article on Wikipedia. Usually, when something is popular, many reliable sources report on the subject, making it notable. However, BFDI had been an exception, with editors being unable to find independent, reliable sources that significantly covered this show until 2025. BFDI's popularity can be seen through the existence of numerous Fandom pages,[5][6][7] but it had not been able to appear on Wikipedia unless notability was demonstrated. It should be noted that other independent animated projects such as The Amazing Digital Circus and Lackadaisy have Wikipedia articles because of their notability, not necessarily because of their popularity.
Likewise, notable subjects are not always well-known. For example, countless bridges, highways, railroads, and cities have extensive coverage despite not being very popular or well known outside of a specific geographic region. For example, Interstate 238 in California has reliable coverage detailing the highway's history, even though the highway is not well known outside of the Bay Area.
Non-mainspace pages
Drafts
Wikipedia has a page type called "drafts", on which new articles can be developed before being published as actual articles that would appear on search engines. Since drafts and user pages are not usually found by casual readers, editors do not need to worry about them getting deleted just because of bad writing or a lack of sources. A draft is usually not deleted unless it has not been edited in six months or it meets any other criteria for speedy deletion.
However, drafts about BFDI were often deleted through numerous miscellany for deletion discussions. Users who participated in these discussions agreed that these drafts had many bad edits and that the drafts being submitted for review and declined over and over again used up editors' time. For example, one deleted draft about a similar web series was submitted for review and declined over ten times.
User pages
While editors are permitted to store drafts in their userspace with the possibility of becoming actual articles, editors may not use their userspace to indefinitely host pages that look like articles. These are often indexed on search engines and make Wikipedia look more like a webhost, which it is not. Wikipedia is a formal encyclopedia, not a dumping ground for non-notable topics.
User pages are for collaboration and communication, with the ultimate purpose of maintaining one as part of a Wikipedia editor's efforts to build an encyclopedia. Therefore, user pages cannot have "fake articles" about topics that are not suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia.
What Wikipedia is not
In order to compensate for the lack of critical reviews and analysis from reliable sources, many attempted BFDI articles often were plot-only summary of works. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Instead, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Entries only consisting of plot summaries are better suited for alternative wikis such as IMDb or Fandom. Remember that Wikipedia is for everyone, not just fans of a certain series, and that Wikipedia must abide by a neutral point of view–showing that people both like and dislike a certain piece of media.
Disruptive editing
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Disruptive editing, even if it is meant to get a point across, is simply prohibited.
In many deletion discussions relating to BFDI, many editors reached a consensus that BFDI is not notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. In spite of this, pages about BFDI were constantly recreated against consensus several times, wasting editors' time in the process. As a result of tendentious recreations, pages that include in their title any variation of "Battle for Dream Island" or "BFDI" had been blocked from recreation in a technical level (i.e. creation protection and TitleBlacklist).
Gaming the system
On Wikipedia, "gaming the system" is the act of using the rules against their intended purpose to engage in unacceptable behavior. Wikipedia is not a government entity where the rules are written in such a way that unintended consequences are allowed to occur. Instead, rules are written with the goal of improving Wikipedia; likewise, certain rules can be ignored should they inhibit said improvements.
There had been consensus against recreating articles about BFDI, leading to creation protection and placement on the TitleBlacklist. However, these protections only blocked the creation of the exact title, which may be case sensitive. Due to their limited scope, there were attempts to create pages against consensus using name and spelling variations of Battle for Dream Island, such as Battle For Dream Island, Battle for dream island, Battle for BFDI, and Jacknjellify. Having multiple articles with similar name variants and/or in different namespaces, especially if they are indexed in search engines, would create confusion with regard to which article is the actual one intended for the topic.
Consensus can change
Whilst repeatedly making the same proposal without presenting new evidence or arguments is potentially disruptive, it is still the case that, even when something has been rejected many times, it can still be accepted. Therefore, in the case of BFDI, the article was eventually created because new instances of significant coverage had been published, and consensus about the notability of BFDI changed accordingly.
History
Creation attempts
The first known attempt to create an article about BFDI occurred in December 2010, of which the article was speedy deleted for having no claim of significance. Over the years, BFDI became the subject of article recreations by various users, resulting in speedy deletions (often for the same reason) and later creation protections. In an effort to circumvent this restriction, name variants of the same topic were used in page titles, such as "Battle for BFDI" and "Jacknjellify". Users have also created draft pages about this topic, such as "Draft:Battle for Dream Island" and "Draft:Battle for BFDI".
BFDI became increasingly popular in the late 2010s, coinciding with the popularity of its fourth season, Battle for BFDI, which was released in 2017. This led to BFDI pages being recreated, deleted, and creation protected more frequently. Users nominated these pages for deletion and the consensus amongst them favored deleting most of them and imposing indefinite creation restrictions on some of them. As part of these restrictions, in September 2020, the term "Battle for Dream Island" was placed under TitleBlacklist with other related terms being added in subsequent years.[b] In 2022, administrator Timwi restored the Battle for Dream Island article and was reprimanded by the Arbitration Committee for doing that. Later that year, a deletion review was made to address BFDI page recreations.
Eventual creation
In 2025, following a discussion on the administrators' noticeboard, Draft:Battle for Dream Island was recreated by administrator FOARP based on new sources that had emerged in the intervening time since the previous AFD. After the publication of additional instance of significant coverage of BFDI, and a month of various editors contributing to the draft as well as a deletion review, consensus about the article's notability had changed, and the draft was moved to mainspace.
Other pages
Certain articles, lists, and disambiguation pages unrelated to BFDI were vandalized simply due to their titles matching the names of settings and characters from the series.
The article on the Federal Commissioner for Data Protection and Freedom of Information was vandalized and reverted multiple times because the agency's official abbreviation happens to be BfDI (German: Bundesbeauftragter für den Datenschutz und die Informationsfreiheit). Two instances of article hijacks occurred on 20 August 2023 (1 and 2), both of which were copy-pasted from this Fandom page. Since September 2024, the article has been placed under indefinite semi-protection to mitigate vandalism. The article Dream Island is also a frequent target.
Disambiguation and list pages like Dream Island (disambiguation), Woody (name) and BFB have faced similar issues as editors have added non-article entries in these pages. Per disambiguation guidelines, these pages should not have non-article entries.
Deletions
There are a few ways for pages to get deleted: opening a deletion discussion, proposing a deletion without any discussion, and speedy deletion. Administrators would usually speedy delete new BFDI articles as they were often recreations of deleted articles. In the past, these articles were speedy deleted under criterion A7 for "not indicating the importance or significance of the subject", though the series now definitely shows a claim of significance.
List of deletion nominations
| Date of nomination (UTC) |
Target page | Venue | Result | Link |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 15 March 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island | Miscellany | Delete | link |
| 27 April 2019 | [c] | Miscellany | Delete | link |
| 21 September 2020 | File:BFDI Recommended characters.png | Files | Delete | link |
| 2 February 2021 | [d] | Miscellany | Delete | link |
| 29 June 2021 | Draft:Battle for BFB | Miscellany | Keep | link |
| 30 June 2021 | Draft:Battle for BFDI | Miscellany | Redirect | link |
| 10 November 2021 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island: The Power of Two | Miscellany | Keep | link |
| 30 January 2022 | Battle for Dream Island | Articles | Delete and salt | link |
| 17 February 2022 | Jacknjellify | Articles | Delete and salt | link |
| 27 May 2022 | BFDI (Franchise) | Articles | Speedy delete | link |
| 28 October 2022 | Firey | Articles | Delete | link |
| 20 November 2022 | Niall Burns | Articles | Delete | link |
| 7 February 2023 | Draft:Battle for BFB | Miscellany | Speedy delete | link |
| 8 February 2023 | User:KirbyOlimar/sandbox | Miscellany | Speedy delete and salt | link |
| 8 February 2023 | User:Ericallums2007/sandbox | Miscellany | Speedy delete and salt | link |
| 8 February 2023 | User:Ericallums15tetert/sandbox | Miscellany | Speedy delete | link |
| 8 February 2023 | Draft:Cary and Michael Huang | Miscellany | Speedy delete | link |
| 8 February 2023 | Draft:Object show | Miscellany | Speedy delete and salt | link |
| 19 February 2023 | Draft:Inanimate Insanity | Miscellany | Keep | link |
| 20 February 2023 | Draft:Carykh | Miscellany | Speedy delete | link |
| 6 June 2023 | Wikipedia:Battle for a Carl Plush | Miscellany | Delete | link |
| 2 November 2025 | Battle for Dream Island | Articles | Keep | link |
List of publicly logged deletions
| Date of deletion (UTC) |
Target page (case-sensitive) |
Rationale | Link |
|---|---|---|---|
| 5 December 2010 | Battle for dream island | A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
| 19 February 2011 | Battle for Dream Island | A1: Not enough context to identify article's subject (CSDH) | link |
| 30 May 2011 | Battle for dream island | A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content): G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion | link |
| 16 May 2012 | Battle for dream island | A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content) | link |
| 26 May 2013 | Battle for Dream Island | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
| 9 August 2013 | Object Show | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
| 13 August 2013 | Battle for dream island | A7: Article about an eligible subject, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
| 27 November 2013 | Battle For Dream Island | A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH) | link |
| 20 January 2014 | Battle For Dream Island | A7: No indication that the article may meet the guidelines for inclusion (CSDH) | link |
| 31 July 2014 | Bfdi | A7: Article about a company, corporation or organization, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
| 8 October 2014 | Object Show | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
| 5 January 2015 | Battle For Dream Island | A7: No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events) | link |
| 5 January 2015 | Battle For Dream Island | A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (web content) (TW) | link |
| 13 March 2015 | Battle for Dream Island:) | Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria A1, G1) | link |
| 14 March 2015 | Battle for Dream Island:) | Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria A1, G1) | link |
| 1 June 2015 | BFDI | Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria A7, G11, G5 | link |
| 5 May 2016 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island | G 13 (TW) | link |
| 1 July 2016 | BFDI | G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page | link |
| 4 March 2017 | The Object Show Movie | A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH) | link |
| 8 May 2017 | Battle For Dream Island | G2: Test page (CSDH) | link |
| 8 February 2018 | Carykh | G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND | link |
| 3 March 2018 | Battle for BFDI | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
| 12 March 2018 | Battle For Dream Island (series) | R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace | link |
| 20 March 2018 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island | G8: Redirect to a deleted or non-existent page | link |
| 21 March 2018 | File:BFDI Logo.jpg | F4: File without a source (TW) | link |
| 21 March 2018 | Object Show Marker | G2: Test page: A1: Very short article lacking sufficient context to identify subject of article | link |
| 26 March 2018 | Battle for Dream Island (TV series) | A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH) | link |
| 9 April 2018 | Battle For Dream Island (series) | R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace | link |
| 9 April 2018 | Draft:BFDI | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
| 10 April 2018 | Jacknjellify | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
| 5 May 2018 | List of Battle for Dream Island characters | R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace | link |
| 29 May 2018 | Battle for BFDI | G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible | link |
| 27 August 2018 | Draft:Carykh | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, make your request here (TW) | link |
| 3 September 2018 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island Again | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, make your request here (TW) | link |
| 20 September 2018 | Draft:Marker (Battle for Dream Island character) | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13 | link |
| 14 October 2018 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island(BFDI) | G2: Test page | link |
| 16 October 2018 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island (series) | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, make your request here (TW) | link |
| 6 November 2018 | Draft:List of Battle for Dream Island characters | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13 | link |
| 7 November 2018 | Draft:List of Battle for Dream Island characters | G3: Vandalism | link |
| 7 November 2018 | Draft:List of Battle for Dream Island characters | G3: Vandalism | link |
| 7 November 2018 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island | G3: Vandalism | link |
| 17 March 2019 | Draft:Object Shows | TW | link |
| 23 March 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
| 6 April 2019 | Draft:Battle For Dream island | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, make your request here (TW) | link |
| 24 April 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island | Duplicate of Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) and appears to be a recreation of previously deleted material | link |
| 27 April 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
| 4 May 2019 | [c] | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) (XFDcloser) | |
| 21 July 2019 | Battle for Dream Island (TV series) | Mass deletion of pages added by Roblox332 per g5 | link |
| 21 July 2019 | Draft:List of Battle for B.F.D.I. episodes | Mass deletion of pages added by Roblox332 per g5 | link |
| 29 July 2019 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Repeatedly recreated article, has been to afd as well see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
| 7 August 2019 | Draft:Object Show Fanonpedia | G13: Abandoned draft or Articles for Creation submission – to retrieve it, see WP:REFUND/G13 | link |
| 22 October 2019 | Draft:Firey (BFDI) | Mass deletion of pages added by BFBFan321093 per G5 | link |
| 26 October 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island (series) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
| 26 October 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island/Elimination Table | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
| 26 October 2019 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
| 26 October 2019 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island (series) | G8: Broken redirect to Draft:Battle for Dream Island (series). If this bot is malfunctioning, please report it at User:AnomieBOT III/shutoff/BrokenRedirectDeleter | link |
| 13 November 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island (series) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
| 13 November 2019 | Draft:List of Battle for Dream Island episodes | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
| 13 November 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island. | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
| 3 December 2019 | File:BFDI Logo.png | Expired PROD, concern was: unused, low-res, no obvious use | link |
| 30 December 2019 | File:BFDI Cast.png | Expired PROD, concern was: unused, low-res, no obvious use | link |
| 12 February 2020 | File:Bfdi Cast Logo.png | Expired PROD, concern was: unused, low-res, no obvious use (TW) | link |
| 10 May 2020 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island (BFDI) | G6: Housekeeping and routine (non-controversial) cleanup | link |
| 10 May 2020 | Draft:BFDI (disambiguation) | G14: Unnecessary disambiguation page | link |
| 6 June 2020 | Draft:Battle for dream island | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, WP:XFD | link |
| 12 June 2020 | Draft:BFDIA: The Movie | G3: Blatant hoax | link |
| 4 July 2020 | Cary Huang | G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: A7: Article about a real person, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
| 24 August 2020 | Draft:Bfdi | G3: Vandalism | link |
| 16 September 2020 | Draft:Battle for dream island | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
| 16 September 2020 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
| 16 September 2020 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island (season 1) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
| 16 September 2020 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island (TV series) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
| 16 September 2020 | Draft:BFDI | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
| 16 September 2020 | Draft:Object Show | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
| 6 November 2020 | B.F.D.I. | A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH) | link |
| 28 September 2020 | File:BFDI Recommended characters.png | Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 September 21#File:BFDI Recommended characters.png | link |
| 28 November 2020 | Draft:Jacknjellify | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
| 28 November 2020 | Draft:Some Stoopid Voting | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
| 12 February 2021 | [d] | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Luz Nazario Velez | |
| 19 February 2021 | Draft:BFDI (Web Series) | G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion | link |
| 26 February 2021 | Draft:BFDI (Web Series) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
| 2 March 2021 | Battle For B.F.D.I. | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
| 5 March 2021 | Draft:BFDI | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
| 9 March 2021 | Draft:BFDI (Franchise) | G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion | link |
| 12 March 2021 | Draft:Jacknjellify | G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion | link |
| 5 May 2021 | Battle fo Dream Island (Series) | A7: No credible indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events) | link |
| 16 May 2021 | Draft:BFDI (Franchise) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
| 25 June 2021 | BFDI (web series) | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
| 21 July 2021 | BFDI | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: more at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI), Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, and quite a few fan-army user talk pages | link |
| 27 July 2021 | BFDI | A1: Very short article lacking sufficient context to identify subject of article | link |
| 29 September 2021 | Draft:Object Show (Genre) | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
| 29 January 2022 | File:Battle for Dream Island logo.webp | There’s already File:BFDI_LogoHQ.png | link |
| 1 February 2022 | Battle for Dream Island | Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle for Dream Island (XFDcloser) | link |
| 1 February 2022 | Draft:List of Battle for BFB episodes (Used in the other draft) | G5: Creation by a blocked or banned user in violation of block or ban | link |
| 1 February 2022 | Draft:List of Battle for BFDI episodes | G3: Vandalism | link |
| 1 February 2022 | Draft:List of Battle for BFDI episodes | G3: Vandalism | link |
| 1 February 2022 | Draft:Jacknjellify Productions | G3: Blatant hoax | link |
| 12 February 2022 | BFDI | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
| 24 February 2022 | Jacknjellify | Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacknjellify (XFDcloser) | link |
| 24 February 2022 | Draft:Jacknjellify (YouTube) | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacknjellify closed as delete (XFDcloser) | link |
| 18 March 2022 | Draft:Cary and Michael Huang | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
| 18 March 2022 | Draft:Michael Huang | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
| 25 March 2022 | Draft:Object show | G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
| 25 March 2022 | Draft:Object Shows | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
| 25 March 2022 | Draft:Object shows | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
| 27 May 2022 | BFDI (Franchise) | G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Battle_for_Dream_Island | link |
| 27 May 2022 | Jacknjellify | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
| 27 May 2022 | Jacknjellify | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacknjellify | link |
| 27 May 2022 | BFDI (Franchise) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle for Dream Island | link |
| 4 July 2022 | Draft:Object Show | Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criterion G4 | link |
| 26 August 2022 | Draft:List of BFDIA episodes | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13 | link |
| 11 September 2022 | Cary and Michael Huang | R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace | link |
| 14 November 2022 | Draft:List of object shows by episode count | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13 | link |
| 11 February 2023 | Draft:Battle for BFB | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) (XFDcloser) | link |
| 11 February 2023 | Draft:Battle for BFB: The Power of Two | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) | link |
| 11 February 2023 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island: The Power of Two | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) | link |
| 11 February 2023 | Draft:Battle for BFDI | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) | link |
| 11 February 2023 | Draft:List of BFDI:TPOT episodes | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) | link |
| 11 February 2023 | Draft:Cary and Michael Huang | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Cary and Michael Huang (XFDcloser) | link |
| 11 February 2023 | Draft:Object show | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show (XFDcloser) | link |
| 11 February 2023 | Draft:Object Shows | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) | link |
| 11 February 2023 | Draft:Object shows | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) | link |
| 20 February 2023 | Draft:Carykh | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Carykh (XFDcloser) | link |
| 23 March 2023 | File:Bfdi.jpeg | Deleted old revision 20230323132452!Bfdi.jpeg: F9: Unambiguous copyright violation | link |
| 30 March 2023 | File:Bfdi.jpeg | F4: Lack of licensing information | link |
| 10 April 2023 | Draft:Battle for BFDI | G2: Test Page | link |
| 8 June 2023 | Draft:Object Shows | BFDI spam Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show | link |
| 15 June 2023 | Draft:Object shows | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show | link |
| 1 August 2023 | Draft:Object Shows | G5: Created by a banned or blocked user (BFDI spam) in violation of ban or block | link |
| 2 August 2023 | Draft:Object Shows | G2: Test page | link |
| 9 September 2023 | Draft:Goiky | G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible. Also note Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Luz Nazario Velez | link |
| 31 March 2024 | Draft:Goiky | G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible | link |
| 18 August 2024 | Draft:Inanimate Insanity | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion | link |
| 8 December 2024 | Draft:Bfdi | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion | link |
| 10 July 2025 | Draft:Island dream for battle | G2: Test page | link |
Conclusion
While articles are subject to notability guidelines where significant and reliable secondary sources are required, drafts and user pages are not subject to such rules. However, these pages, along with other namespaces, are still subject to other sets of rules like what Wikipedia is not. Drafts can be nominated for deletion, although this usually involves conduct like tendentious resubmissions. In order for a draft to not get declined after a review, it should have plenty of reliable sources. Keep in mind that self-published sources and user-generated content such as YouTube videos and Fandom wikis are considered unreliable and therefore do not count.
However, even when an article has been deleted many, many times on Wikipedia, this does not mean that this is necessarily a permanent state of affairs, since consensus can change, particularly with new evidence.
Meanwhile, there are plenty of alternative outlets for information about BFDI where you can contribute. For example:
- All The Tropes (A fork of TV Tropes)
- Fandom
- Fanlore
- Giant Bomb
- Battle for Dream Island at IMDb
- Know Your Meme
- Miraheze
- Namuwiki (Korean)[e]
- TV Tropes
Remember, even these alternative outlets have their own rules. Before you contribute to a wiki, you should familiarize yourself with its rules. For example:
- Administrivia on TV Tropes: The Administrivia namespace on TV Tropes is for TV Tropes-related rules and editing guidelines.
- If there is a trope listed in one article, but there is no context or no explanation in the part[f], it is likely to be removed.
- Namuwiki (Korean)
See also
- Wikipedia:Bare notability
- Wikipedia:Before they were notable
- Wikipedia:But it's true!
- Wikipedia:Deletion review/Perennial requests
- Wikipedia:Existence ≠ Notability
- Wikipedia:Fancruft
- Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections
- Wikipedia:Minimum coverage
- The opposite: Wikipedia:Obscure does not mean not notable
- Wikipedia:Popularity does not guarantee notability
- Wikipedia:Red flags of non-notability
- Wikipedia:Salted drafts
- Wikipedia:Subjective importance
- Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Fandom
- Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not
- Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources - Covers sources like YouTube, Fandom, and TV Tropes that usually cover information on BFDI and why they are not reliable and are generally not recommended to be used as reliable sources on Wikipedia.
- User:JzG/And the band played on... (This page was created back in October 2006, over 3 years before BFDI debuted its first episode, but this still applies to topics that have almost no notability for an article)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject YouTube/Notability
Notes
- ^ a b As of November 2025
- ^
- "Battle for BFB", "Cary Huang", and "Michael Huang" in February 2023
- "object show" in March 2024
- ^ a b
- Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI)
- Draft:Battle For Dream Island: The Movie
- Draft:Battle for B.F.D.I.
- Draft:Cary Huang
- Draft:Four (BFB)
- Draft:Jacknjellify
- Draft:Object Show
- User:Citationcreationstandingovation/sandbox
- User:Hjjarrett
- User:BFDIFanMovies/sandbox
- User:LucasNeon51/sandbox
- User:ChanKwanYuMoses1/sandbox
- User:Dannytrinh1806/sandbox
- User:Bfdiman/sandbox
- User:Goodatmath12/sandbox
- User:Chaseyboy428
- User:ChileMedel
- ^ a b
- Draft:Windows Vista (2021 film)
- Draft:Yellow Face Ate My M&M's
- Draft:The BFDI Movie
- Draft:Object Stuff: The Movie
- Draft:Object Stuff
- ^ Before reading the Namuwiki article, you should understand the wiki's inside jokes, such as the use of strikethroughs on some of the content that is considered humorous.
- ^ In TV Tropes, it is often called ZCE (zero context example) by the users of the wiki. See an Administrivia TV tropes page about Zero Context Examples.
References
- ^ Roblimo (28 July 2004). "Wikipedia Founder Jimmy Wales Responds". Slashdot. Retrieved 28 April 2014.
- ^ "About SMG4". YouTube.
- ^ SMG4 log and SuperMarioGlitchy4 log
- ^ "About jacknjellify". YouTube.
- ^ "Home". Battle for Dream Island Wiki. Retrieved 2 June 2023.
- ^ "jacknjellify". Wikitubia. Retrieved 2 June 2023.
- ^ "Battle for Dream Island". Object Show Fanonpedia. Retrieved 2 June 2023.
External links
- I have a Wikipedia article now? 🤩 (but it's not BFDI) on YouTube — 2024 video with Cary Huang