Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion
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Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.
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[edit]What may be nominated for deletion here:
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Archived discussions
[edit]A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.
Current discussions
[edit]- Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.
November 5, 2025
[edit]The individual in question is non-notable and was declined twice. It is unlikely that the subject would become a Wikipedia article. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 00:05, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:NDRAFT. Tenshi! (Talk page) 00:07, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
November 3, 2025
[edit]| Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Shadowfax33/Userboxes/Groyper |
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The result of the discussion was: delete. WP:SNOW ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 16:11, 4 November 2025 (UTC) WP:HID Dog whistle for white nationalism LakesideMinersCome Talk To Me! 15:59, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
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WP:NOTWEBHOST: "user pages do not serve as personal webpages, blogs, or repositories for large amounts of material irrelevant to collaborating on Wikipedia." This page contains a bunch of lyrics of unkown copyright status containing what appear to be features. Even if best scanerio that these are the user's lyrics, they contain features which are of unkown copyright status. Either way, this is entirely unencyclopedic from a mostly noncontributer. -1ctinus📝🗨 15:19, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - It's a sandbox, and the user has been playing in the sand. We should only consider deleting sandboxen if there is clearly something troublesome with them, not if there is nothing obviously right with them. (Sometimes the plural of 'box' is 'boxen'.) Robert McClenon (talk) 18:57, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- I see this as troublesome, as the page hosts a bunch of blatantly unencyclopedic lyrics.
- Sorry for not really explaining a rationale, so I'll quote the rationale. My apologies.
- Lyrics are especially problematic since their copyright status is unknown. -1ctinus📝🗨 20:11, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
November 2, 2025
[edit]| Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Skyttejp/sandbox |
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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. WP:U6 ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 16:14, 4 November 2025 (UTC) Per WP:COPIES and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ComparePages?page1=User%3ASkyttejp%2Fsandbox&rev2=874310317 Paradoctor (talk) 17:39, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
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Unsourced BLP. Paradoctor (talk) 17:32, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - This is not only an unreferenced BLP, but appears to satisfy all of the criteria for U6, work of a non-contributor more than six months ago. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:32, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Agree, next time. Paradoctor (talk) 20:59, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- It's not a subpage, so U6 doesn't apply. See also Wikipedia:Replacement of CSD U5 FAQ at "Why are top-level userpages exempted? What do I do with them instead?" ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 16:23, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:33, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. WP:U6 ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 16:17, 4 November 2025 (UTC) Unsourced BLP. Paradoctor (talk) 17:26, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
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Draft:List of people who died by being hit by a cow which got hit by a train and flew through the air whilst urinating on train tracks
[edit]- Draft:List of people who died by being hit by a cow which got hit by a train and flew through the air whilst urinating on train tracks (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
Not suitable for wikipedia Theknoledgeableperson (talk) 17:14, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - This is such a hideously convoluted set of circumstances that a comedy writer would question who on earth would suspend their disbelief to buy this. Also, WP:BLP1E. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 17:18, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - It's a draft, and drafts are not deleted for notability, and drafts are not deleted for stupidity unless they have any of certain specified types of stupidity. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:46, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep per above and WP:NDRAFT. - Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 23:05, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per NDRAFT. Just let the draft go undisturbed for a while and when it doesn't get edited (I doubt many edits will happen to it due to the sheer specificity of the circumstances described in the title) the draft can be deleted automatically. Gommeh 📖 🎮 00:29, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:NDRAFT: If we just leave this alone, it will probably go unedited for six months and be eligible for G13. On the other hand, it could be expanded and eventually become a featured list! There's no rush to delete it now. Chess enjoyer (talk) 04:33, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. While this article doesn't have a chance of meeting our notability in our current form, WP:NDRAFT and WP:NMFD are clear that notability guidelines don't apply in draft space. If anything, let G13 take its course. ~ Matthewrb Get in touch · Breadcrumbs 06:56, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. This draft does not meet notability requirements and should be deleted before the six months end.
- Theknoledgeableperson (talk) 14:16, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- We don't delete drafts for not meeting notability requirements in general, as it's assumed that the draft can always be edited to meet notability standards later. If it doesn't meet notability standards six months after it was created then the draft will get automatically deleted. Why do you think we should delete it before the six months are over? Gommeh 📖 🎮 14:57, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: It's one thing to create a gag article, but the fact that exactly one person died in this specific way does not constitute allowing the draft to continue. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 00:07, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
Anomie maintains a list titled "Hall of Shame" to include editors in good standing who have opted out of bot notifications. This is a massive WP:BLP, WP:CIVIL, and WP:NPOV violation concerning presumably living editors. This is also apparently how Anomie responds to stimuli such as bugs and errors from its own bot. Anomie also states that it's an actually a list of bots (dozens), not editors (over 1,000 entries) — how incredulous. The bot just collects and lists users. Not bots. The disparate justifications don't explain why this aggressively pejoratively titled list needs to include a list of hundreds and hundreds of username entries. There is no acceptable reason to maintain such a "Hall of Shame" that simply collects usernames. See the dithering. After an unreasonably dismissive response from Anomie, I asked for a move/retitle. Anomie has failed to do so. I initially gave a one-day notice of intent, but in light of the dismissive reply, it's time for this Hall of Shame, after existing for over a decade. JFHJr (㊟) 05:19, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- This seems a strong reaction. SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:35, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Would you feel any differently if you were named in a Hall of Shame in an admin's botspace? JFHJr (㊟) 05:37, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Is the page title a joke?
- Does the list serve a purpose for the bot owners? Eg, does a cluster of nobot flags signal a bot problem? SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:46, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- The BLP joke exception. Noted. JFHJr (㊟) 05:56, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- (And no, of course it's not a joke. It's a judgment. And if it were a joke, I'd be an involuntary punchline. It's uncivil.) JFHJr (㊟) 06:32, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- There’s a conversation at User talk:AnomieBOT/Nobots Hall of Shame. Could this be resolved by an apology for an unintended insult and a page rename? SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:01, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Seems doubtful. JFHJr seems intent on finding something to be offended over here. Anomie⚔ 13:04, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yes. A neutral title would be fine. And it would moot this discussion for closure. JFHJr (㊟) 21:00, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- And I don't need an apology. A move alone would suffice. JFHJr (㊟) 21:00, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- There’s a conversation at User talk:AnomieBOT/Nobots Hall of Shame. Could this be resolved by an apology for an unintended insult and a page rename? SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:01, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Retitle to something descriptive and bland. SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:47, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Would you feel any differently if you were named in a Hall of Shame in an admin's botspace? JFHJr (㊟) 05:37, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, this nomination seems misguided at best. If the page title is problematic, then it should be moved, not deleted. 88.97.192.42 (talk) 08:47, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- We're clearly heading towards WP:SNOW territory here. 88.97.192.42 (talk) 12:09, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep and a WP:TROUT for JFHJr. Find something useful to do instead of digging for something to be offended over and dismissing the explanations as "dithering" and "desperate justifications", and purposefully mischaracterizing the page after you've already been informed better. The pages are useful for bot operators who want to find unreported bugs and for gnomes who want to clean up unnecessary bot exclusions, and the title is a minor bit of humor that, if it disparages anything, disparages bots that need to be excluded from a lot of pages. It doesn't even list users as claimed, it lists bot exclusions and the pages those exclusions are present on. Anomie⚔ 13:04, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Disparate, not desperate; these are very different things. I would never characterize your actions as desperate. I'm sorry about any confusion. Cheers. JFHJr (㊟) 21:16, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Nominator seems extremely uninformed of what it actually does. It's a list of all pages that exclude a bot, not just someone's talk page. I fail to see their argument that a list of pages that excludes bot(s) is
a massive WP:BLP, WP:CIVIL and WP:NPOV violation concerning presumably living editors.
Furthermore, they haven't tagged the subpages of it either. Tenshi! (Talk page) 13:18, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. The "shame" is being applied to bots, not users. A page rename could be considered for clarity. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:55, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I too don't see the issue here, nor even a need to rename. This is reporting an easily-verifiable factual claim, and nothing more than that - I don't see how that makes a BLP issue. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:20, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - I am not voting Keep at this time because I am completely confused. It is clear to me that the nominator has missed something, but the combination of this nomination and the now-dismissed G10 nomination are so bizarre that I wonder whether I have also missed something. This makes no sense at all to me. I don't even understand what the error has been. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:42, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep and no need to rename. While the page could be moved to a bland and banal title that would not confuse or offend anyone, I think a better fix would be for those editors to develop a better sense of humour. – SD0001 (talk) 09:12, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep and snow close. This page title in in User space, is innocuous (or a slightly in-poor-taste attempt at humor at worst), and never needs to be looked at by anyone except its creator. Let's focus on the millions of actual errors and problems on live Wikipedia articles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:56, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- User:Authenyo/Democratic People's Republic of Irisland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
Fails WP:NOTWEBHOST. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 03:45, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. I don't think bad faith was evident so it's ineligible for G3, but it is still is not appropriate for inclusion as it is just made up. I'm guessing that MfDs like these will become much more common since U5 was repealed. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 04:18, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
Delete - If this were in draft space or article space, it would be a hoax. One can argue over whether it is a hoax in user space, but there is no question that it doesn't belong in any namespace, because it states fiction as fact. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:02, 2 November 2025 (UTC)- Delete - Wikipedia is not a web host for your made-up country. -- Whpq (talk) 22:29, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:34, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - I just noticed that the events are in 2030 through 2034. This is not stating fiction as fact, but it is contrary to Wikipedia is not a crystal ball (which is a policy). Wikipedia is not for alternate history, regardless of whether it is in the past or the future. The applicable policies may change, but the result is still that it isn't permitted. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:16, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
Althistory cruft that goes against userpage guidelines. I previously left a warning on the user's talk page in September but user has continued to use their userpage for this purpose. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 02:03, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete for various reasons, including that the names of likenesses of living persons are being used contrary to fact, which is a BLP violation. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:04, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete and warn, fantasy alternate history is not ok anywhere on Wikipedia. SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:22, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep These are very clearly public figures--Trade (talk) 14:48, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- This is exactly why we should delete, as the page contains misleading information about them. (WP:BLP) Gommeh 📖 🎮 00:31, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- False information, on a site that endeavours to be reliable, is not OK. SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:34, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note - the MFD tag was removed by the author when thye blanked their user page. I have restored the MFD tag. -- Whpq (talk) 14:40, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
November 1, 2025
[edit]This has been edited several times over the years but has always been an unsourced BLP. To make matters worse, it is an autobiography and some revisions (including the current one) have been promotional. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:12, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: As an unsourced BLP. Autobiography doesn’t make it worse, writing unsourced BLP material is worse if it is about someone else. SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:04, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as unreferenced BLP. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:47, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:05, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete and warn as clearly promotional and unreferenced BLP. Additionally WP:TOOSOON. Gommeh 📖 🎮 00:33, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
October 31, 2025
[edit]| Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Whyiseverythingalreadyused/on the Christian persecution complex with ChatGPT |
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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 15:56, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
This appears to be a transcript of a chat session between User:Whyiseverythingalreadyused and ChatGPT. This doesn't seem relevant to any wiki project, and an entire page set aside for this seems excessive, even for an established editor. Sunmist (talk) 18:01, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
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October 29, 2025
[edit]Unsourced BLP. Paradoctor (talk) 22:04, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'd have tagged it (along with User:Smaddy Wend102/Sample page) under speedy deletion criteria U5: "A non-contributor misusing Wikipedia as a web host". Autobiographical self-publicity. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:41, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Huh. Didn't even notice the auto part. I'm getting too old for this shit. Paradoctor (talk) 00:17, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete both as an unreferenced BLP and as web hosting. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:21, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 04:49, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 19:16, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete both - they are unreferenced BLPs with no proof of notability and also per WP:WEBHOST as said above. Gommeh 📖 🎮 00:36, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
Unsourced BLP. Paradoctor (talk) 22:04, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as unreferenced BLP. It is also web hosting of an autobiography, but U5 is in flux.
- Comment - These two nominations could have been bundled. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:20, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Noted. I shall endeavour to reform. Paradoctor (talk) 01:33, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 04:49, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 19:16, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete both - they are unreferenced BLPs with no proof of notability. If the other page is deleted (which let's face it, it obviously will be) then G8 applies here too won't it? Gommeh 📖 🎮 00:37, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
These two rejected submissions appear to be part of a loosely coordinated off-wiki campaign to create an article about a so-called micronation. They are now calling it the Sovereign State of Ironland because the title Ironland has been extended-confirmed protected both in article space and in draft space, Draft:Ironland.
- Delete Both as nominator.
- ECP SALT Draft:Sovereign State of Ironland as nominator. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:16, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete and Salt, per nom -Samoht27 (talk) 15:13, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete and Salt per nom. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 19:17, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:06, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
Stupid bizarre IP duck and refusal to speedy, this should be deleted WP:G6 and requested WP:G7, shouldn't need this process at all. It's no longer being used. Govvy (talk) 15:25, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Comment this is a very clear case of WP:!G6, and there are simply too many non-trivial edits by others for it to qualify as WP:G7. It is however now at the correct venue for deletion. For now I offer no other opinion on the nomination. 204.111.137.106 (talk) 15:49, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, per request of the primary author. Toadspike [Talk] 16:57, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Mark Historical if this once had a purpose and has served its purpose. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:45, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Minnow to nominator for a common error about G6. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:45, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Mark Historical per Robert McClenon. Tenshi! (Talk page) 15:43, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Question Mark as historical? It didn't serve any purpose in the end, no one read it far as I am aware, no one helped with the pages I wanted help with, so it failed in it's purpose, nothing historical about this. Govvy (talk) 18:09, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Toadspike. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 19:18, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
October 28, 2025
[edit]| Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:SMBFriss/sandbox |
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Salvio giuliano 20:52, 4 November 2025 (UTC) WP:COPIES: Draft that was copy-pasted to Warren Sarrell, and should then have been redirected there per WP:STALEDRAFT #5. Article was G11ed a few hours later, at which time that redirect should have been G8ed. Paradoctor (talk) 17:14, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
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October 23, 2025
[edit]- Draft:Personal color analysis (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
- (Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) Salvio giuliano 07:16, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
Blatant AI slop, zero chance of ever being accepted into mainspace, yet declined for CSD G15. Author has been pasting identical copies of this exact same content across multiple different titles too. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 20:11, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- Question for the nominator, User:Taking Out The Trash - What are specific indications that this draft is the work of artificial intelligence? Robert McClenon (talk) 16:25, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- The tone and writing style is quite obviously the output of ChatGPT or an identical program/software. I utilize these tools for legitimate purposes often enough that I can recognize their styles, especially when it's this blatant. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 19:30, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- AI-assisted, maybe, but I doubt it was blatantly written by ChatGPT; its editing history shows a natural incremental work, and I do not see any blantant WP:AISIGNS, just unencyclopedic essay-like writing. Ca talk to me! 03:59, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Salvio giuliano 07:16, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Do nothing, unfortunately. It's Copypasta from an offline source, but not deletable as such. Will not be accepted in mainspace so just ignore. Star Mississippi 21:26, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
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